There's only one anime you NEED to be watching this Fall

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  1. Mysty Unknown

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    I will pass on said anime. Little Busters is the only anime I must be watching this fall.
     
  2. Menos Grande Kingdom Keeper

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    Jojo is great, even the worst part (the first) is awesome, maybe the best soap-opera ever made, such an evil characther DAMN YOU DIIO BRANDO >_<!!!! But the story realy gets going with the adition of stands... all battles are so planned out, that it makes you sad to come back to other stories where fights are won only with power ups.
     
  3. Jube Formerly Chuck's

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    Masato doesn't even look buff enough
     
  4. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    Someone mentioned comics? I felt the disturbance in the force.

    Too lazy to go back and quote the exact post of DigitalAtlas, but I can understand how he can like comics and not manga. Coming from someone who spends a decent amount of cash on comics every week and follows several manga, the two are fundamentally different. Just because they're images with thought bubbles does not mean they're so alike that if you like one, you'll like both.

    I don't know what comics DigitalAtlas reads, but I read DC (both old and DCnU), Ultimate Marvel and mainstream Spider-Man, Image Comics, and the occasional lesser known company. Hell, I read books about comics sometimes. As for Manga, I've read...a lot. Probably not as much as Jube, apparently, but enough. Fairy Tail, Bleach, Naruto, Air Gear, Claymore, Bakuman, Wolf Guy - Wolfencrest, Shaman King, Deadman Wonderland, Rosario Vampire, Freezing, D-Gray Man, Veritas, and Blood Soul, just off the top of my head. The anime I've watched is an even more expansive list. And personally, I prefer manga over anime. The only times I'll go out of my way to watch anime is when there's a characterization I like (Hummingbird from DW<3) or specific scenes, usually battle scenes. Like DA implied, the scenes coming to life is so much better than the still images, usually black and white. But comic books (assuming we're talking about American comics) and graphic novels are pretty different from manga. There's several reasons why, but unless someone's actually curious, I'm not going to type up that long of a post.

    tl;dr: I don't agree with DigitalAtlas that anime > Manga, but I completely understand his opinion. Comics =/= manga (and I would argue comics > manga all the way, but opinions, opinions). And Veritas needs a Part II goddamn it.
     
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    ...Recently I'm finding myself agreeing with this. Blue Beetle. <3
     
  6. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    Registering Metabolic Arousal
     
  7. Jube Formerly Chuck's

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    I like comics.
    I just find find more variety in manga then I do in comics. I'm well aware there are stand alone comics that aren't about a cape crusader but to me it's just not enough. I'm just tired of superheroes in general especially the ones we've been seeing for the last 60 years as well as the idea of "Meet the new Tick".
    With manga, I can read about big titted highschool girls shooting zombies(HOTD), pointy nosed losers struggling with debt(Kaiji), An insane doctor wiilling to save everyone no matter what(Franken Fran) or a city plagued by a spiral curse(Uzumaki), or the tales of a suicidal teacher surrounded by a class of nutjobs(Zetsubou sensei)
    Also comics (and western animation in general) doesn't know how to do fanservice well.
     
  8. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    Considering your animated fetish, I'm not surprised. I don't read comics for the racks and panties. In fact, seeing Supergirl wear shorts under her skirt one day was amazing, in my opinion, and much more real than panty shots. Also, considering there are definitely new heroes and villains periodically as well as several lesser known heroes and villains, I would say that you aren't looking deep enough.
     
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    I don't read manga for racks and panties either.
    But it's always a plus, I'll never say something is bad because it has tits. Also Power Girl getting her boob window closed was ******ed.
    But I don't want heroes and villains.
    I don't want "Bob becomes Ballman and defends New York City"
    "Alan becomes the Living Thing and fights crime"
    "Penis becomes the new Dickman"
    I want situations and scenarios like every other medium seems to do that isn't "Forced to take on a separate identity".

    And I`ve never went into any fiction expecting any form of realism whatsoever.
    Realism can be cool, but ultimately I`ll appreciate the exaggerated and unknown rather then realism IE the thing I`m surrounded by every day of my life.
     
  10. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    I like Top Cow's originality, as well as DH's style.

    But I also like the fantastical and exagerrated elements of the Japanese style.

    But which is better?

    There's only one way to find out?

    FIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!
     
  11. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    I will agree with you on the Power Girl thing, though the new artists still keep playing on that, but it makes sense why they closed it post-reboot.

    And there are plenty of characters out there that don't have that that dual identity thing. Some characters don't have a secret identity, but keep the alias a title (Deathstroke, Animal Man, Wolverine, etc.) There are plenty of characters that don't hide their secret identities even when they're public heroes like Green Lanterns John Stewart and Guy Gardner. There are plenty of stories that aren't simply "I must defend my city" like I, Vampire where Andrew Bennett is stopping Mary because he's responsible for her, not some misguided sense of good vs. evil, or Blue Beetle where Jaime is trying to find a way to get used to be a hero, not defending people because he can but because unwillingly forced out of a normal life, or Runaways where the team realizes their parents are sacrificing kids every year, or The Savage Hawkman which is a much more personal story than simply hero vs villain, or Red Hood and the Outlaws, or Red Lanterns which is from the view of the villains. "John Doe gains powers and defends his hometown because with great powers come tight spandex" is barely applicable anymore. In the last year, since DC reboot, I can think of several new people introduced: Green Lantern Baz, Calvin Rose, Bunker, Skitter, some Dino guys, Harvest, Omen, Dollmaker, etc.
     
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    I can't speak for Jube but, my problem is not with secret identities. It's with heroes. I don't want to see someone going out an saving someone else in that ridiculously over the top fashion. I don't want to see someone fight crime. I don't want to see someone taking up a burden because they just feel so responsible for the good of mankind or people within their sight or what have you. I don't want to see someone protecting their loved ones from anything but totally mundane situations. I don't want heroes at all. I don't want them or anything that comes with them. The more I read of anything the more I realize, I just want a simple story with people who can do what people can do. It's more interesting. More than half of my favorite manga series feature no superpowers or even much direct combat related conflict. The same can be said of webcomics. I only follow a few western comics at the moment because money is such an issue there, but my favorite, Nonplayer, has nothing to do with heroes.
     
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    That's perfectly understandable. But that's more of an type of literary preference, not medium preference. (Btw, is that why you're such a fan of Bakuman? I think that was you). But Jube himself mentioned that he expects exaggerated and unknown, not realism.
     
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    I dropped Bakuman nearly two years ago. I mean, I didn't dislike it in the beginning, but it became a constant rehash and flattening of side characters to fit roles without any true progress to the story.
     
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    All of these characters are old as hell though which I already said is another problem I have with comics. I feel in a story once a character goes through their development and revelations then they should be left alone unless there`s more to them.
    I like I...Vampire. However I hate the fact that it`s absorbed into the DC continuity as most DC and MARVEL things eventually do. I prefer stand alone universes where I definitely will NOT ever see a mention of some other super hero or character or whatever. Even better if they take place on a seperate area then Earth. No America, No Canada, nothing. Something like the world of Avatar or the mysterious world of Black Rock Shooter. Once again, it`s only preference that`s easier to find in anime and manga then in comics.
    This ultimately ties into The Runaways and Blue Beetle, I simply can't get into a comic the instant they mention "THIS IS THE SAME PLACE WHERE SPIDERMAN DID THIS" as the obvious impact from the line would be if you witnessed Spider Man do whatever but as I said before I'm tired of the old classic heroes so I would have no idea of what Spider man did and why.

    I like standalone comics like The Walking Dead
    Scott Pilgrim
    The God Machine
    Bone
    Things that have no association with anything but themselves. And a SPECIAL bonus to ones that take place in entirely new worlds like Bone.
     
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    I guess that's why you're more into manga than comics since each manga is a standalone series. I personally love how some things that, for the most part, are outside the main events in the universe, but still inside of the universe like the current volume of Blue Beetle. Though I agree sometimes it gets annoying. I have no intention of reading Ultimate Comics: The Ultimates (wtf is with that title, Marvel?), but some big event that happened there is affecting Ultimate Spider-Man and Ultimate X-Men, which I follow, and it's annoying not knowing what it is. However, the times that I like this is definitely more frequently than the times that it annoys me. The way I see it, DC, Marvel, and Image (the three "universes" I've followed) is one big story with different events and each series is simply focused on certain characters. Except for the aforementioned Ultimate Marvel incident, it isn't too difficult to read one series, see a connection to another, and then move on without reading the other series (Granted, DC is having trouble with this lately and is connecting everything too intricately, but I guess that's because everything is connected in that universe in one way or another).

    You mentioned that you think characters should be left alone after their development is through, but that's when you simply develop them more. It's why Gwen Stacy was killed and Superman is now involved with Wonder Woman instead of Lois, or -my favorite example- how Dick Grayson is a such a "literary sexy" character despite that he finished as Robin and moved onto Nightwing and then seemingly finished as Nightwing and moved on to Batman; he went back to Nightwing and is still being developed pretty damn great. At the same time, a lot of superheroes are legacies (here's looking at you, Flash). Their mantle gets taken by someone else to develop the same "hero" further by also developing a different person under the mask.

    Anyway, I'll agree to disagree since at this point we're just arguing about our personal preferences. The only point I really wanted to make was that there is nothing wrong with DigitalAtlas preferring anime and comics over manga.
     
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    It just kinda doesn't make any sense that he's willing to watch an anime about something, but not willing to read the manga about the exact same show when he's stated that he has no problem reading and looking at static pictures.
     
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    I can't speak for him, but like I said earlier, there's a fundamental difference between manga and comics despite both being pictures with speech bubbles. It might have to do with the coloring of comics versus the black and white of most manga. Or it may be the cultural difference of the two that makes one more enjoyable. Eh, if he comes back and feels like answering, I'll let him do it since, like I said, I can't speak for him. Though I will say that other people's preferences don't usually make sense to us; it's the way our individual minds work.