God-Emperor of Man vs Enoch: Deadliest Warrior

Rules:

For those of you who have not seen the show Deadliest Warrior: Its a way of comparing two warriors who have never met on the battle field, and comparing them against eachother in a fair and reasonable way and in turn figuring out who is the deadliest.

I dont want this thread to boil down to "Well ______ is stronger than _____ because he's epic!" It would be more reasonable to list thier powers and abilities and limitations. Its good to point out your weaknesses in your oponents abilities. Also, source any material you post. For example, don't say, "_____ is imortal because he can't be killed!" but instead, "_____ is importal because on chapter xxxx of part xxxx he did this, and revealed he couldn't be killed.

In this matchup:
We will pit two fighters of godlike status.

On one hand, we have from the realm of Warhammer 40,000, the greatest human to ever exist, the God-Emperor of Mankind. A truly remarkable figure, leading The Great Crusade to purge the entire universe of Chaos, and any other threat which emerges from outside the realm of man. He is the embodiment of the souls of over 1,000 Psykers, or psychic warriors, who is granted immortality due to his immense psychic power. Cloning himself to create the great Primarchs, and later, the Space Marines, he set about in motion the most powerful war-machine in the Warhammer Universe.

On the other hand, we have Enoch the warrior priest. A man chosen by God for his pure heart. He battles fallen angels, in an attempt to save the world. (Sorry, El Shaddai wiki was kinda obscure.)


In this Match up we will test:
Physical Combat: Who has the better physical abilities?
Supernatural Abilities: Who has better magical and psychic powers?
Toughness: Who can survive taking more damage?
Intellect: Who is the better tactician?
Feats of Strength: What did they accomplish that is beyond the reach of others?
Misc. X Factors: Anything I might have missed.

Special Note:
Unlike previous Deadliest Warrior threads, I will actually encourage a cross examination. This is something apparent in the actual show, but not in any of the threads.

What I want from a cross-examination: When someone post a characters ability, skill, weapon, and how it works, I want you to theorize as to how the person you are more familiar with will deal with the said situation. Will they be able to evade it? Will their armor take it? Ect.

Please, be objective. I only want to see which character would win in a battle based upon the lore, not who's the better debater. All forum rules apply. So far the game has been civil, I hope this can continue with the cross-examination phase added.

 

I chose Enoch because he is the only "Godlike" entity I ever heard in fiction capable of taking on the God-Emperor. But I won't debate, I'll let a 40k player take it up. :)

 

Coming up with info for Pre-Golden Throne Emprah was hard... I'm doing my best here...

Physical Combat:

I'm not gonna lie, I found little info on the Emperor's Combat abilites. From what I've read he was a warrior of unfathomable skill and physical might (being as old as he is, he must be). In battle he welded a Power Sword and a Power Fist (that had claws!) that were both rather powerful (how powerful I don't know, again info on pre-life support was hard). However considering that Space Marines are all humans with Primarch DNA in them making them super soliders that are weaker then the Primarchs, and the Primarchs are weaker clones of the Emperor, it is safe to assume that the Emperor is really frickin' strong.

Supernatural Abilities:

It is established that the Emperor is pretty much the most powerful psyker alive, humbling even the eldar, and whilst upon the Golden Throne he guides the light of the Astronomicon, basically a lighthouse in the warp. The Emperor is so powerful that he could destroy suns (no, I am not kindding). It is his own psychic keeping all the horrors of the warp where they're supposed to be and not spilling over into reality and make the lives of all human beings miserable.

His will is omnipotent, extending across the million worlds that comprise his Imperium. It is said that even after being placed on the Golden Throne he continues to guide humanity through his Tarot, and through dreams and visions given to selected individuals. It is also popularly believed in the Imperium that he created the warp storm known as the Storm of the Emperor's Wrath during the Age of Apostasy.

In addition to these already profound powers, the Emperor is capable of stopping time for undetermined lengths.

Toughness:

Again, hard to find. But I did find out is that he wears golden Terminator Armor, which is likely to be more powerful then the standerd Terminator Armor of Space Marines. Again, like before, he is probably really tough.

Intellect:

The Emperor is very old, apparently born 8000 B.C in Anatolia, making him a Proto-Sumerian probably. In that time he has likely picked up on various things such as various scientific fields and military tactics. The Emperor has prooved to be a skilled tactician, having likely fought in wars in the past and even latter in his life such as The Great Crusade. The Emperor is also a brillent scientist, having been able to create clones of himself, genetically altered warriors and even the Astronomicon (which allows simplier and safer travel through the Warp).

Feats of Strength:

It should be noted that the Emperor was a large threat (if the largest) to the Chaos Gods, so much so that he was one of the few things that the Chaos Gods would work together to fight (which is really, really, really rare).

The Emperor also managed to re-unite humanity.

Even in his vegetable state (His existence is said to be an unending torment in said state) his every thought is enslaved to the task of ruling, guiding and protecting his race. Ultimately it is only his will to endure that allows him to survive, as he knows his death would lead to the destruction of the Imperium and leave mankind without the guidance it needs to survive.

Misc. X Factors:

I'm not sure what to add here... :sweatdrop:

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Burnitup, forgive me. I should've been more clear. The era of the God-Emperor I envisioned was at the begining of the Horus Heracy. Its his "prime". Feats after that (such as maintaining the emporium psychically by means of the golden throne) really shouldn't count.

Also Machina, I ca you source where he is confirmed to be the metatron?

 

Opps, sorry about that. But still, it shows just how powerful he is if he can still influance the Imperium when techically brain dead. Sorry, do you wish for me to edit the parts that are saying he is on the Golden Throne?

 

Nah its cool. Your point is valid. But, ill clarify both sides when I get a chance to get on the comp. This posting via phone isn't practical.

Also, can you source the whole exploding of the sun? And I see how the Emperor is related to the Primarchs and Space Marines, but can you help me appreciate the Emperors strenghs more plainly? I mean, how strong are the Primarchs? Also, you said he's in Terminator Armor, but honstly, I don't know how terminator armor is distict from normal marine armor. Heck, all I know about marine armor is its a type of powersuit. Forgive my ignorance.

@Machina: I will look up your sourced information. I don't mean to be rude, I just really know nothing about El Shaddai lore. I know a few things about Biblical Lore, but, I would hate to get them mixed up unnessisarily. Sorry if my last post was blunt. I was posting on my break at work. Time is off the essense when your on the clock.

 

I think it was in the Horus Heresy books. I got the supernova blast from the seond post of this thread when doing my research: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=239780

I could confirm eveything listed after the Supernova in other sources, but I wasn't too sure about it so I searched some more. I also saw it in the /tg/ wiki that mention it in one sentance, and another wiki mention it offhandedly. I've also discovered someother sites that put him against other fiction beings (shuch as Cthulhu, Superman, the Lich King, etc.) that brings it up. I'm assuming that it is infact canon.

As to how strong a Primarch is well... some Primarchs are stronger then others, how ever if I recall correctly one of the Primarchs (Konrad Cruz) dugged himself out of a planet's core when they were flung across the galaxy by Chaos. Leman Russ, Primarch of the Space Wolves, before he was discovered by the Emperor is said to have been able to turn back whole armies of the king he was following at time's enemies by himself without a scratch, to tear whole oak trees from the ground and snap them over his back, and to wrestle Fenrisian Mammoths to the ground.

Like power armour, Terminator suits have an outer shell of ceramite-bonded plates powered by electrically-motivated fibre bundles. Plates of heavy plasteel further armour the ceramite sections, especially on the front of the suit. This extra armouring provides a level of protection that is far superior to normal Marine armor; not even a Krak missile will penetrate the suit's breastplate. It also contributes to the immense weight of the suit, making the wearer less maneuverable and slower. External adamantium ribs help support this weight, while the inclusion of suspensors help the suit carry heavier support weapons. The Emperor's armor was highly customized and augmented, and do to his strength he was able to move in it normally, unlike Space Marines.

 

Wow... just wow...

Both of these characters are redculously overpowered. I've a feeling that the writers of 40k were kinda drunk when they wrote the Primarch digging hi way out of a planets core. Btw Machina, Primarchs are clones of the Emperor. And it is canonized fact that he was stronger than them. His power is suprisingly... cartoonish. x3

As for Enoch, he represents the pinacle of what can be considered "serious". Having the power of a God (deliberate capital "G"). Wow...

I'm actualy a little curious as to how each warrior would react t the others appearance. Who would attack first? Who would be defensive and offensive. How would each eact to the others weapon and tactics?

 

I know right? This is going to be awesome!

However, the Emperor did get beat by Horus (Primarch of the Black Legion/Sons of Horus/Luna Wolves). However it was because Horus had the backing of all four Chaos Gods combinded with the fact that the Emperor didn't want to kill his favorite son. It wasn't until a lone warrior (sources say he was either an Ultramarine, a member of the Emperor's elite guard, or a lowly Imperial Guardsman. Fans insist it is the last one, because a human Guardsman standing up to a terrifying monster like Horus is more impressive and falls more in line with the spirit of the Guard than a fearless Marine or Custodes. Likewise, a Custodes or even a Marine might pose a legitimate threat to Horus, but a mere Guardsman...) then sees the Emperor's broken body and attacks Horus in a rage. Horus simply flays him with a glance. Which then causes the Emperor (who sees that Horus is irredeemable) to completely annihilate Horus' soul (Yes, the Emperor can destroy souls. This is the only documented time however).

This. Is. Going. To be. AWESOME!! :3

 

I don't feel confident making a decision myself. Would it be ok if I presented your case in the spamzone, and I asked for popular vote?

 

I don't mind, Trollestia. :)

 

Would now be a good time to point out that the Emperor sealed a C'Tan (basically a sentient sun and one of the beings that created the Necrons) inside of Mars single handedly?

 

If I recall correctly, the C'Tan in question was the Void Dragon who is said to be the most powerful of the Star Gods.