Xehanorts heartless guardian is terra ??

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So what are your thoughts on this? Could it possibly be terra or were just overlooking things?

 

I don't think so.
For one in BBS when Aqua fights Terranort you can do a combo attack with Terra against Xehanort's Gaurdian. This kinda shatters the whole thing unless Terra could be himself and the gaurdian heartless at once. Also Ansem and Xemans are both confirmed to be part Xehanort and part Terra.

 

Probably not. Square-Enix just want to make Riku look even more awesome during that part. But Everglow's theory is pretty interesting, since I watched the video before.

 

Yeah your righ but an other possibility coild be that it is master eraquxs cause don t forget his hearts resides within terra. But i highly doubt that. What i personally think is that it coild be terra darkness as a representation bwcause it would make sense to have it be, because since there are two people in that body there must be some sort of representstion of the sort if you know i getting at. Its like the way ven protected sora with his armor,it only has to be people who have a heart within them i mean you surely have asled yourself at least oncr who this guardian was?[DOUBLEPOST=1370135618][/DOUBLEPOST]

Yeah but you cab never be sure Nomura is capable of anything. Plus if you think of it anything since Kh 3d is possible

 

I've had this theory in the back of my head for a long time now
Personally, I think the fact that going inside Terra's... mind... I guess...? and finding Guardian says a lot. So yeah, I personally believe they have a connection. After all, Guardian appears after Xehanort takes drastic measure to excise Terra completely, right?
(Sorry, didn't watch the video... my computer doesn't feel like running any youtube video today :/)

 

I agree and strongely disagree at the same time!

First things first! If you Think the guardian is Terra, is not! As we saw through the series before Terranort used the guardian against Aqua:

Ansem(seeker of darkness) uses it everytime, BUT RIKU ALSO USES IT AGAINS ROXAS:

Now... we see that before Terranort became a Heartless the guardian existed, if Terra had became a Heartless at that point Xemnas should had been born there! We know that Ansem and Xemnas only appered years after Xehanort studied under Ansem.

At 358/2 days when Riku uses His darkness to use the guardian he was already free from Ansem's hold that's why he didn't lost his heart nor the Keyblade while at that form.

So I strongely disagree that "the guardian is Terra". I think he is the equivalent of That Ship Xemnas fuses himself into when becomes one with Kingdom Hearts, or that giant thing Marluxia became at the end of Chain of memories.

I do however agree that is a bit off that only Ansem's incarnations showed that power.. (but it can be only a aesthetics thing).
I would agree if one said that the guardian is the DARK EQUIVALENT of the DUAL KEYBLADE WIELDING... like, when you got two hearts inside your body you are able to use two keyblades (why didn't sora took that chance at Kh1 ?) , If you are at the dark side because you have multiple hearts you are able to use the guardian as a "second weapon". Xeharnot and Riku are the only people at the dark side that we currently know that had two or more hearts inside of them.. that would justify only them being able of using the guardian! But I don't think is propely Terra, but due to Terra's presence Xehanort was able to use the guardian (Like Sora has Roxas Heart, but I don't think that Roxas itself is the other Keyblade, like I don't think Xion is the second keyblade of Roxas even though inheriting their hearts enables the user to use the secondary weapon).


We could also look the guardian as "Ansem true form" , as a beeing of darkness that he become he apears as the Guardian, but he isn't still a Heartless as he mantained his body.. as he gained that ability before becaming a heartless he kept it after even whithout a heart and Riku "has it because Ansem has it" , just like "Sora can use two keyblades, because Roxas could".. and that's why even when his fake body gave up the guardian still wanted to fight.


It can be Terra aswell but i don't belive it is.

Also... how does terra can keep up with all this spliting? The lingiring spirit is where his spirit is, his body and heart with Ansem, and his keyblade (and Roxa's) followed Aqua to the realm of Darkness /o\ How many parts are there? And so Xemnas has Terra's body but not his soul? Maybe he lost to Xehanort mainly because he didn't put his spirit into it LoL ?

 

Who knows everyone is xehanort nowadays. I do strongly agree of with definition of the dual wield. But i am going to stick with my theory about terra s darkness. If it wasn t terranort would have used it during his battle with terra sentment , see because after that battle terranort was mentally and emotianally confused since terra and MX were fighingt over their domination over the body, this must have then have a negative effect and create a second persona and theb it has stuck with xehanort since. As for when he create Xemnas and ansem it carried on to ansem and dont forget thaft ansem is 100% darkness and i completely shrouded in it so it would make sense for terra darknwss to pass on to him. Before the fight with ansem when riku made his speech he probably managed to reach terra somehow and eventually led to make terra do that littlemovement. Lets just think of it as a shadow and representation of terras body inside xehanort.

 

That maybe true I guess but is odd for me that so many people uses the guardian and all the time is Terra, I think even Ansem (the wise, not the seeker of darkness) used it at chain of memories/reverse rebirth:

And Ansem the wise (DiZ) Reverse/Rebirth doesn't have anything to due with Terra. IF guardian is just a "Dark hability" is ok, if not it is at least strange.

 

This is a very interesting theory. Adds even more to the mindfuh that is Kingdom Hearts.

I noticed that too! Because of that, I now stick to this theory that the Dark Guardian, if not Terra, he at least has something to do with Terra.

 

It was Ansem the wise, Riku discovred at Twilight town (in castle oblivion). He was faking to be Ansem seeker of darkness, because he belives in the power of darkness this whole game was Ansem the wise teasing riku with Darkness and Mickey bringing him back twoards the light.

 

On the data world he is god, but at real world he shouldn't be able to do so much, If he could why he would need the hero of the Keyblade? He didn't care about Kingdom HEarts by that point revange was everything that matters to him.

 

"Fact: We all know Nomura is a hell of a fox."

...Respectfully disagree-*brick'd*

Didn't Nomura get the idea for 358/2 Days from a fanfic or something? I dunno, that's how I heard it, could just be a wild rumor. Wish he'd made a Sorrow of Magpies game instead AHEM but yeah, the original point is interesting - and if we were dealing with someone who's known for making every second count, making every gesture and expression meaningful, I'd say it's definitely not for no reason that the Guardian stops for a second and holds out his hand like that. Sadly, no matter what other credit you choose to give him, Nomura is not a master author; this would have to be planned as of Birth by Sleep, and I don't believe he's operating on that level from that far back in the story. But I do believe he'd make it canon now that somebody's thought it up. So I think the real answer is: If it's out there, it's fair game.

 

I always saw that scene as showing that Riku had finally overcome the Darkness. The Guardian--an extension of Xehanort's Heartless--reaches out in a last effort to bring down Riku, but Riku manages to ward it off, simply be raising his Keyblade. It's a powerful scene and one of my favorites.

That being said, these are some interesting theories I'm reading. I wouldn't be suprised if the Guardian is Terra--perhaps his Heartless even. I know that the big contradition here is that Terra--when possessed by Xehanort--was using the Guardian at the same time, but perhaps the Guardian is Terra's Heartless. It could certinaly be argued that Terra is more-or-less dead at this point: his body has been taken away and he's little more than a weak will.

Back to the scene in question: I do find it significant that Riku references his meeting with Terra right before the battle, and then right after. The manner in which the Guardian reaches out is also worth noting. It does, as others have mentioned, look as though he's trying to summon a Keyblade.

 

This is a very good theory. and in all honesty i completely forgot about that scene until u just posted it. I guess i never read that far into it, but everyone here is making good points. It would make sense if it was Terra's heartless. very good observation +1 to you all :)

 

Yeah I think it's something subconscious that the heartless guardian is in fact the shadow persona of Terra and how he view himsrlf deep inside.

 

Thats exactly what I thought.