What are your viewpoints on abortion?

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  1. finalform32 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    1.exactly, its illeagal. punnishment should be keep the child. if it's wanted, then you got lucky.

    2.thats categorized under the larger subject of rape. therefore my statement stands.
     
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    But rape is rarely initiated by the woman (although not unheard of, so don't be all like "BUT IT CUD BE"). So how is it justified if the woman is forced to keep a child she didn't plan for and/or it wasn't her fault?

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  5. Always Dance Chaser

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    Then my stance on any other sort of rape applies. It should be a choice.
     
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    Abortion is awful and unacceptable. Only idiots would get one, it should be ILLEGAL. FREAKING IDIOTS.
     
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    What definition of 'murder' are you using? The legal definition of 'murder' does not consider abortion to be murder.

    The law against incest has the intention of preventing children from an incestuous relationship from being born. What is the difference between preventing the incest, and preventing the child that comes from the incest before it is conscious?

    So what's the difference between aborting a foetus, and using a condom? Either way, the generations of children don't exist.

    There is no need, but if it's not murder, then it's awfully convenient to kill it. There are already a lot of children in adoptive homes, and they don't have a great future. Also, we've got an overpopulation problem too. So if abortion isn't murder (which we're also discussing) then it seems to be a good choice, as it deals with these problems nicely.

    Interesting that you don't take the same view of it being fatal. "Suck it up and have the baby. You got pregnant". Presumably she knew the risks before having sex, so isn't the potential danger from childbirth just another thing she should suck up?

    Gotta love irony.

    I don't understand what you mean. ;)

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    Well the entire point of incest laws is to prevent incest-children, is it not? I don't feel your analogies accurately represent that aspect of the situation.

    So breaking the law created to prevent the creation of incest-children has a punishment of raising an incest-child and releasing it into society? That seems awfully counter-intuitive, if not directly contradictory of the initial objective.
     
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    i'm not pro-choice, i'm pro-abortion.

    ... c:

    But nah really, since this is spam I'mma be short: pro-choice politically, pro-life (mostly) personally.
     
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  12. Always Dance Chaser

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    The premeditated act of ending a living human being's life.
     
  13. P Banned

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    Define: 'Living'

    Define: 'Human being'
     
  14. Always Dance Chaser

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    I think the definition of living is pretty much unanimous.

    My definition of "Human being" is a fertilized egg residing in a female's womb, and anything beyond that stage. I believe this definition should be considered valid because in the very early stages of pregnancy, you can tell whether something is a human fetus or a giraffe fetus.
     
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    Query: You have no qualms with the destruction of frozen embryos used in IVF?
     
  16. Always Dance Chaser

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    At what point are embryos destroyed during IVF? I thought that was just the test tube baby process, where an egg is fertilized outside the body and then put in the womb
     
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    Many embryos are fertilised outside of the womb for practicality. However they cannot all be put into the womb at once. Usually one or two are placed in the womb at a time, while the rest are frozen outside. More often than not, once a foetus has successfully been grown, the remaining frozen embryos are destroyed.
     
  18. Always Dance Chaser

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    Yes, I have a problem with that.
     
  19. no-reality_allowed ¢ℓαιяνσуαηт ℓσνєкιℓℓ

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    You'd be surprised how very wrong you are.

    Anywho I'm very pro-choice since the only people who are usually pro-life are religious people and they're always trying to bring God into arguements which makes for very frustrating debates. I strongly believe that if you and your significant other do not want the child then have have the right to end it as soon as you can since having a child you may or may not want can not only ruin your lives but the child's life as well. A child growing up in a horrible life is not the way a child is supposed to be raised.

    I also believe people who cannot afford/mentally stable enough to take care of a child should never have one at all since all it does is put a strain on that family/society and if you are living in the shitter for most of your life then there's a big chance your child isn't going to help society at all and will instead do nothing significant for it. Sure I've been told it's a cruel thing to say, but as a person who has seen the massive stress children have put on families who just weren't ready for one (and not to mention overpopulation) I think it's something that should be done. Haters gonna hate.
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    Please revise your definition of 'human being' to include such embryos, or otherwise explain why you have a problem with it, despite them not being human.