The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 9.0

but i have him and he is really slow
Mozzila is a lot more faster,atleast to me

 

I just hate how a lot of you guys treat him like s freaking god. He isin't a god, he is just another person.

I have been aggressive with hero gate before, and yes I did. I told myself I am going to win, and thus.I did. I won once and I proved to myself he is just.another duelist, to confirm my suspicion.

 

I shall now be referred to as, Thief king Reinzel!

 

cool history bro.
He was using a new deck.
He won like a 5-6 times.

Also
>Got a good Hand
>Says is going to win
>Opp Draws Bad
>Wins
>I'm the best[DOUBLEPOST=1356858502][/DOUBLEPOST]love how people get mad against fred's power

 

One, I decided this before choosing of the roles of who goes first and second, Second, from what I understand, Fred normally draws the card he needs, where as he didn't, because he relied on a single card for support of fusions. Not trying to sound like a hypocrite, but my Hero's can at least run hero beat as a back up without fusions. Third, New and old, it doesn't matter. If you put a deck together right the first time, then dose it matter if its fresh out of box? No, Forth, Anyone, and I do mean ANYONE in here can beat anyone else in here, in streaks or in flip flop. Fifth, your assuming that I think I am the best after a single victory, which is not the case. That victory was just my proof to myself that I could handle myself in a duel, as I had not beat him until as of late. Six, even for me, that meme is WAY overused. Seventh and finally, I am not "Mad" at Fred's good playing. What I am mad about is this god treatment you guys put him under. He is not a god, he is not even special, No offense Fred. He is a Human like the rest of us, he is a good player, yes, Worthy of a near or as the top title in the YCS at least once? Yes, he has the skill. But no, he is not a god. IMO, Fred is a bit of a boring guy. He hardly post anything even remotely exciting or new to the conversation, unless its Yugioh related and only if to argue a point except with Brook. Now every situation dose have its exceptions, but that's not what were focusing on here. I hate to have to tell people this, I hate to tell anyone this, because I think someone should have their own opinion and should express it, but its getting to be way too annoying and often, but and I put this in all the nicest ways possible:
FRED IS NOT A FREAKING GOD NOW GET OVER IT AND GET A LIFE!
Ahem, forgive my ragesplosion, but I think its time that is should have been done, and I think its long overdue.
Also for all you Bushy Brow lovers, Find some other Idol, all his "Fame" is pretty much given to him. I could ask for my own banners and pretend to god mod around the arena the same way he dose, but if I did it I would get yelled at by most of you. Where as Bushy has done the same thing for like a year now and no one is even remotely over it now. No Justice.
Next post will have my top 10 most overrated KHV users.

 

I have no reason to be offended by anything you've said. I'm more concerned that you felt you needed to confirm that I'm just a normal person.. And, to a lesser extent, that you felt you needed to confirm that by beating me in a duel.

Spoiler: Long response with many tangents

I used to normally draw what I need because I was backed by my Fables, which are an extremely versatile deck. They are the deck that I built and practiced with and improved when I truly wanted to be really good at the game. I used to be able to get into a really bad situation, then count off the number of cards in my deck that could get me out of it.. Then draw something else, and realize that that could still be used in another play to save me. I always thought that that was better than consistency. My Fables are a really inconsistent deck in a sense, as I can never rely on getting out the same combo, and I don't have much trap support to slow the game down to wait for combos to come to me.. but they have the flexibility to make hundreds of different combos with many different goals and side-effects, and they can OTK with even the slightest provocation. I've always attributed most of my power to my Fables, and then, eventually, I decided that competing with the meta of the time wasn't something I wanted to do, and wasn't something that was fun to do, and something that my Fables couldn't do with me as the duelist if I wasn't playing my best.. And so I set them down and stopped using them, telling myself that I wasn't good enough for them. Really, they were just too good for the level I wanted to play at. And they do lose, like any other deck. They still get bad hands.. But they will always be my strongest deck.
Anyway, enough about my Fables. Gem-knights have to rely on getting fusion. I use Ryko and Turtle and PoD to help speed up that process, but the chance of not getting it is always there. The one game where you beat me, not only did I not get fusion, you drew well enough that you were able to get out three fusions quickly, and Solemn Judgment. I had the cards to stop two fusions, had it not been for SJ, which would have let me draw two more cards, and at very least set a monster to defend against Gaia. You had no more hand, so you would've been reduced to hoping to draw a good monster, while I was several cards ahead, hoping to draw fusion, or ryko, or spark.
You won that duel, and nothing takes away from that, but it's not because my Gem-Knights are too focused on that fusion. They can get it relatively consistently, and they did get it in the other six duels we had. They would have gotten it that duel too, via turtle, had you not opened dark hole.
When you say that at least you can use Hero Beat without fusions, you're ignoring the fact that fusions are what makes Hero Beat strong, and without them gem-knights can do it better. If I didn't have to worry about Super Poly and Miracle Fusion, (ignoring staple traps) the only threat of Hero Beat is Alius and Stratos, 1900 atk, 1800 atk respectively. I can run Garnet and Sardonyx, 1900 atk and 1800 atk respectively. Stratos and Sardonyx are two different kinds of searcher, with Stratos having the upper hand, but Stratos is limited, while Sardonyx is unlimited. Alius and Sardonyx are both targets for Gemini Spark. So things seem even in that respect. You get E-Emergency Call, yes, but I get Gem Armadillo. You can get woodsman for a solid 2k def, but I can use Sapphire for 2100 def, or Gem Turtle for 2k def. And on top of that, I have Obsidian and Lazuli. if obsidian is sent from my hand to my grave by card effect, it can special summon a level four or lower normal monster from my grave. if lazuli is sent to my grave by a card effect, it lets me add a normal monster from my grave to my hand. Since Garnet, Sardonyx, and Sapphire are all targets for this, if I run cards like Card Destruction and Foolish Burial, I have a clear uadvantage. Yes, you can use Heated Heart for a temporary +500 boost, but I can use Gaia Power for a lasting +500 boost to all of my monsters, with the side-effect of cutting down Woodsman's def. I also have Amber, 1600 atk, who is a target for gemini spark, obsidian, and lazuli, who will boost to 2100 with gaia power.

I agree on this point. I do think I'm a rather uninteresting person. It is worth noting, however, that this thread is supposedly about Yugioh, so not adding new and exciting things that aren't Yugioh related isn't necessarily a bad thing

Yes, in level of practice with it. Just knowing all of the combos in my Fables isn't as helpful as having a sense of how well they work, and what risks tend to be good risks. Not that someone could consciously know all of the combos in my Fables. That being said, that deck isn't new. It's an old deck that I hadn't worked with in a long time.

 

While we're on this subject I gotta take a moment to ask, How important am I to you guys here? I'm getting the feeling I'm not very important. I mean it's always Fred this and Fred that...You all always talk about how great he is...

I agree. I think he's great too. I can see why you all like him but I think it's perfectly clear now that none of you would care if I was gone. There have been times when I willingly helped some of you but yet I got no acknowledgement for it whatsoever...Mainly Terra who feels this way since even though I helped him more than once he still called me an ass and hypocrite and said in different ways that he thinks that I'm a jerk. Plus we've also got that time when I said I was leaving and none of you except itachi even gave a fuсk...

And I was really hoping that now that I'm free of my mentor you all would start seeing me in a new light and wouldn't think that I'm mean and a jerk anymore...but I guess that's not so is it?

And I don't even get any credit at all for being the founder of this arena and for thinking of the idea...I've tried to be nicer for awhile now and show that I've changed but yet all of you are still like: "Fak Jaden! He's jerk and an aѕshole and a hypocrite Fred rulez!"
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Somebody please get Jaden, One of the things I think he's always right in is Hero's.

Jaden, Please tell star how stupid it would be to not run any fusion card's in Hero's.

Also,My first Gishiki deck was one that ONLY ran Gishiki Mirror. I still won alot with it. Actually, Even now, I still only run one ritual spell. I think I took out the other Ritual card because it wasn't really worth it. Not to mention, @"He relied on One Card for Fusion" Gem-Knight Fusion is better than ANY Hero Fusion card (Super Poly, Poly, And Fusion Gate aren't Hero Fusion cards, BTW). Because you can re-use it again because you have to have atleast 2 Gem-Knights in Grave from it's previous use. (INB4wataboutmacro)

@Screaming
Do you think I care? Do you think Riku cares? Do you think Rafael cares? No. That's like . . . Well, when I tell you Hero's are Trash, Or Riku tells you your deck isn't even a hero deck, It's just alot of Staples with Hero's in it . You don't care, You still use it. Like wise, I don't care you don't like that I like Fred because he's a nice person (Something so, Very hard to find now a days). Also, Beating him in a duel doesn't prove anything to me. I already said so , But I like Fred because he's among the few that are nice to everyone. I find that very respectable. And I'm usually boring, too. Given, Everyone still hates me , But being exciting isn't something needed to make you likable.

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Oh, Thank goodness you're here, Jaden.
Proceed to tell Star why having no Fusion cards in a deck that's already pretty bad makes it really bad.[DOUBLEPOST=1356897724][/DOUBLEPOST]

Quoted so you know to check the arena.

 

Wait Star tried to use an E-Hero or GemKnight Deck without Fusions? Seriously?

 

He said he has, And he was GOOD.
He said Hero's don't need Fusions.
*Cringes*

Also, May I point out the Arena is pretty much the Middle East of KHV? When one problem is resolved,Another one begins...A medal to anyone who can solve all of our problems.

 

Wow just wow...What did he use in place of Fusions? I mean if Heroes aren't in Fusion form they're very easy to take down...

 

He said Hero Beat makes Hero's versatile.

 

He's right about that. (Although I don't see how cuz Hero Beat looks horrible IMO) I mean the Special Summon blocking stuff looks like it could work against you...And if you got a bad hand and were facing something like that ninja deck I faced you'd get steamrolled...I think that sounds about as crazy as using Slifer in Infernities or Skill Drain in Fortune Ladies...>.>

But I've never tried Hero Beat before so I don't really know how it works.

 

Well try it, And then yell about it.
c:

 

Man,i did go to dn just to win against your mentor with heroes just to you feel good
and now you say no one cares about you? DID YOU FAKING SEE MY SCREENSHOT?

 

What the hell is going on here! Jaden you my ****ing rival and you know I care about you mate!
And I got to say this place has gone too far down hill. And I best just leave you with this before I go into rant mode.
GET A ****ING GRIP!

 

Okay,Now i Got Mad.You really made me Mad.this is the first time i got mad here.Now i'll say the truth to you.

FIRST OF ALL

STFU

You're Bad
Your Deck is Bad
You're jealous about Fred.
Your deck is a pile of trash with Traps,Traps and Traps.
Your Extra is a Trash
You don't know rulings
You're A Noob.

Your hero deck is just a **** deck with skill drains,normal monsters,and traps.Fred boring? All his fame? Bro,He Owned you 4-5 times using a Bad Deck,Against your pile of trash.Then you Get a Good hand,wins,and say he is not a God.I remember,the first time you won against me,Was in a Heros Mirror Match,When you won by solemn warning and bottomless twice 4 cards of mine,and topdecked a miracle fusion.Then i won 2 times against you by siding like a BOSS i'm.See? you win by your TRAPS.This deck doesn't take skill at all.YOU DON'T HAVE SKILL.
I Can see that by that faked Hero Build.To me,you're just another person.Fred is a important person here,and to arena.
You're just a Noob using a deck with staples and traps with no skill.

 

Can people who were born blind see their dreams?
Because I mean, They haven't seen anything to imagine. So... And also, How do blind people know when to sleep? How do they fall asleep? Just lay there, And that counts? Poor blind people...

 

A very good observation.

HERO beat does make them more versatile, but he was saying that they could do it well even if they didn't have fusions.

Please don't shout. Whatever you think of the other person, or what they are doing, shouting is almost always the opposite of helpful. Oda, thank you for not going into full rant mode, even if you were shouting a bit.

 

All I have to say: Fanboy rage because I don't like your Idol. Also, that was just a tiny bit annoyed. Had I been mad, I would have gotten to the point where I would get myself banned so I could not have the urge to come back.

What about me?

I ran HERO beat without fusions by using a paralyze Exodia style strategy . basically, Using Two man Cell battle, Ground collapseX2, Heart of the Underdog, Axe of despair, Neos alius, revival cards and neos destruction cards with a bunch of Hero's It ran absolutely no traps and although slow at times when it comes to beating the opponents, I only lost with that deck on the times I went second, and even then I still rarely lost.

Even if the thread is about Yugioh, it doesn't hurt to participate in out of Yugioh things more often. Some of the things here, actually even without seemingly so, taught me lessons that helped my Yugioh. And I felt that you were a normal person before, What I mean by normal is a normal duelist, rather than a hacker. I didn't think you would hack, but I think its never too unsafe to check. the first few rounds with Terra, Jay the one time I played, and RIku were test to see if hackers or cheaters present. I don't trust most of you as far as I can throw you.