The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 9.0

Discussion in 'The Playground' started by Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta, Jul 30, 2012.

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  1. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    If we printed out any yugioh cards and sold them Konami would sue our asses off.

    Aside from that, Great Rip is Darkness Incarnate, Avatar's image fits, the 1 attack point fits what the great rip actually is, the "cold death" of the universe where it slowly drifts apart until atoms can't even hold themselves together, and the 1 atk reference to Avatar's original effect is there.[DOUBLEPOST=1356370485][/DOUBLEPOST]
    That's what I used to do with my customs. I figured if I were going to actually use these, they needed some image.
     
  2. Labrys King's Apprentice

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    Lol what the hell, he's using like a godmod.
     
  3. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    I never said I approved it. And I don't.
     
  4. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    If you were paying attention you'd see that I mentioned it as an example of a card that should not be accepted.
    Even if I were given permission to use it, I'd only use it for RP purposes as a main villain.

    Edit: side note, I didn't even submit it with the cards I was asking if were accepted.
     
  5. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    That is all true yes I'm just saying it would be better to use images that Konami didn't already use because it's well...not creative you know?
     
  6. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I can see why it would be better to have an original image, and if I could quickly effortlessly generate a reasonable original image I would.. but I have very little artistic talent, I don't care about the image, and I don't see how it's more original to copy/paste art from somewhere else on the internet than to copy/paste art from other cards.
    Instead, I just try to find cards that have art that already fits my customs. I borrowed two images from Infernity, as they had an image that was similar to my Chaotic monsters, and Infernity Guardian fit for Entropic Gardna. I took Doomsday Horror because it fit my idea of what Chaotic Nightmare would be like. I took Chaos Necromancer because it was a card I was familiar with, and it was reasonable for Chaotic Portal Master, and so on. Because they're all from yugioh cards, they also have a style that obviously fits with Yugioh cards, and with each other.
     
  7. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    That's all true. But it's still more creative to use something from google images. That's what I do. And it's not like the people who made those images are gonna know. And even if they did they're not gonna sue us. Plus people use the artwork from deviantart to make yugioh cards alot of the time.

    If you use artwork that you found it's at least still different than the stuff already made by Konami. And therefore more original and creative right?

    EDIT: Also Lol check out THIS guy's customs:
    http://s338.photobucket.com/albums/n423/Anti049/?start=all

    The ultimate epitome of brokenness and unfairness...

    That's putting it mildly though. This guy's stuff is so ridiculously cheap, overpowered and broken it should be considered cheating...
     
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    ..how is using someone else's creativity, creative?
     
  9. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I guess you can make that case, but I believe the custom card is a card to be used, not an artwork to be seen, so the creativity should lie in the card's stats and effects, not the image.
    Also, if I use yugioh cards that I'm already familiar with, the time taken to make each card is dramatically reduced. Moari is the simplest card of those that I made, a very simple effect, some fairly standard stats. A few minutes to type it out, take Fire Princess's image, finalize it, upload it, done. More time to work on trying to balance more complex cards like Itsumo. If instead I had to spend probably half an hour or more looking for an image that was suitable for the Energy archetype as I envisioned it, and that fit with the style of any other energy cards I had made, I would have very little time to work on more complex effects and their balance.
    I sent you about twenty cards, and the one who's image took the longest was only about 10 minutes. If I needed to find ten or so different images on the internet that fit my Chaotic monsters and had similar style, I probably would have spent much longer than half an hour per card, and I would probably end up with images that I didn't like because I couldn't find much else. That would then subtract both from the time I had to work on the other cards, and my interest in completing them. I would also probably forget some of the stuff I had intended to do while I was busy looking for pictures at random.

    Edit: side note, that link you posted used the same image of hollow ichigo for.. at least seven unique cards.
     
  10. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    I admit it would be cool to be able to design your own images to use. But not everybody is as skilled at drawing as the people on DA are.

    And yeah I have no idea why that guy used the same image so many times. Though he did use some of the same images used by Konami he at least inverted the colors to make them different though.
     
  11. In my opinion, and image makes the card. If you at least color flipped it, it makes it more unique to the card. You have a valid point on the card effect and stats making it unique, but what makes a yugioh card do much fun to look at it the picture you see in the card, and seeing a re-hashed card image with a changed name and effect still makes me think that it is the other card. I think what Jay means by originality is that the card could easily be mistaken, had you taken the card and the Wicked Avatar, covered the effects and all other indicators of which card was which besides the image, you would not be able to tell the difference, but if you stuck Little Wing Guard up to your card, you could tell the difference. He means its appearance makes it stand out, not look like a re-hash is the creative aspect, or in other words:
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    we can say the same thing if I gave you a card without the image and you had to guess what the image is.
     
  13. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Lol wtf is up with this card?
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    It doesn't even make sense...I mean Naruto's Shadow Clones in the anime were not indestructible...Far from it...

    I'm beginning to think this guy must not realize that some cards are banned and are banned for a reason and that the cards of this game are supposed to have costs and weaknesses...

    I actually know this guy by the way. I've spoken to him before. I don't know much about him though. We haven't talked much. From what I can see he lacks skill and competency as a Duelist considering he relies on such overpowered cards. In a real Duel any of us could take him without breaking a sweat. Cuz if he had any decent amount of skill he obviously would not need to rely on such overpowered cards to win.

    And I challenged him to a Duel one time where all me and him used were real cards and all he used were weak vanillas lol. That proves my point. But I have to say some of the cards this guy made were quite creative. If he would just water them down and make them fair they'd be pretty cool. I think I'll remake some of his cards sometime for the heck of it.
     
  14. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    The thing is.. If I color flipped it, in addition to having the odd look that color flipped things always do, the coloration would make no sense. For Jaden's Evil Hero customs, doing a color flip fit and make sense, but for these it would be like if I took Shining Angel and color flipped it so that it was all black and dark.. And then still tried to call it Shining Angel. I could take light cards and try to do color flips if I were going for a fallen angel theme, but with generally fiendish monsters, there's not much I can do.
     
  15. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Well that's still better than nothing at least.
     
  16. Rafael Yuki Merlin's Housekeeper

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    even my naruto cards was better than that.Btw,Why Naruto's Hair is RED?
     
  17. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Lol indeed.
     
  18. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    it would make the image different, but it would also mean the image didn't fit. If I want a light angel and I take the image of shining angel because it fits.. And then I color swap it, I don't have a light angel anymore. If I want an evil dragon so I take red-eyes, but then I color swap it.. Now it's not dark anymore, and it looks more like a good dragon.
     
  19. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    It would still work for other things though.
     
  20. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    he isn't making other things atm.. and he needs fiendish images.. so color flipping a light monster wouldn't fit even if it becomes dark.
    it would also take a lot longer to have to color flip multiple images just to find the right one than just finding an image.
     
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