The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 11.0

Discussion in 'The Playground' started by Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta, Dec 14, 2014.

  1. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I got true neutral, but it should have given me lawful good, given its information. Honestly though, I'm neutral good.
     
  2. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    You were supposed to post a screenshot of your result. Anyway I thought the test seemed pretty accurate. I think the reason why I got true neutral is because of how I put that I don't value things like law much. I just don't really care about anything as long as it doesn't affect me or the ones I care about in a negative way.
     
  3. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    In my test, good and neutral were tied, and lawful was one point below neutral. There was not a single point for either Chaotic or Evil. That's a reasonably strong Lawful Good reading.

    As for you, not putting value in the law makes you Chaotic, even if you don't actively seek to break it. So while you may be True Neutral, I find it more likely that you would be Chaotic Neutral. And while the test gave me True Neutral, going by its data I should be Lawful Good, and in reality I should be Neutral Good.
     
  4. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    As stand alone card (outside of series):
    >Total of 4000 combined ATK and DEF.
    >Ability to attack twice.
    >Once per turn attack negation.
    >Its level 4 Warrior-type monster. With 3 copies of ROTA legal I see Warrior Beatdown coming back to life.
    >He can also be used in Normal Monster Beatdown, when after using No-Skill Drain its 2100 ATK beater.
    >Its only downside(s) - not being able to inflict damage, is very insignificant, when compared to its 3 positive traits. With score 3 to 1, it would need at least one more negative trait to balance it out. (I don't count restriction to being able to control only one monster.)
    >There is total of 96 monsters with ATK of 2100. 5 of them are Normal Monsters over level 4. That's 91 monsters left. Next we have 13 Fusion Monsters (all over level 4), 1 Ritual Monster (also over level 4), 13 Synchro Monsters (with only one being level 4) and 14 Xyz Monsters (with none of them being level 4). That leaves us with 50 Regular Effect Monsters [EDIT: What I meant when I written that was with regular old card frame.]. Its worth mentioning that none of previously mentioned had effect that would be unreasonable for monster with this Level/Rank. But back to 50 cards left. One of them is Level 5 tuner. With still reasonable effect. Next we have 1 Level 5 Gemini monster. It also have strong, but reasonable effect, giving that it must be Normal Summoned twice OR Special Summoned then Normal Summoned to even use its effect. Also we have 1 Level 6 Spirit monster. Strong and annoying, but still reasonable. So that leaves us with 47 Effect Monsters. Only 12 of them are level 4 monsters, and none of monsters over that level have unreasonable effect, except for one Limited Monster. 1st being Koa'ki Meiru Powerhand. Monster with strong counterbalancing effect and effect negation of effects of LIGHT and DARK monsters. Weaker than Kenshin. Next is Worm Rayuken, that can only attack after its flipped face-up and is flipped to vulnerable face-down position after attack, with 1200 DEF to defend itself. Very similar monster is Karakuri Muso mdl 818 "Haipa", that changes itself to defense position after attack and when its attacked, leaving it with pathetic 1100 DEF. Next we have 3 monsters of "Field Series" that all are 2100/800 monsters that can be discarded to search appropriate Field Spell and cannot live without it. 6 more to go. Zombyra the Dark cannot attack directly and looses 200 ATK every time it destroys a monster. Naturia Spiderfang can only attack you if you activated some effects during turn in question. Wulf, Lightsworn Beast must be Special Summoned and cannot be Normal Summoned. Then there is Phantom Beast Sabre Hawk. It cannot attack if you have non-"Mecha Phantom Beast" monster in your graveyard and cannot attack you directly; gains levels equal to combined levels of all "Mecha Phantom Beast Tokens" you control and if you control a Token you can Tribute it to banish 1 card in either player's Graveyard. This card also cannot be destroyed by battle or card effect if you control a token. So far the strongest one Level 4 2100 ATK monster, but it have only 100 DEF and cannot produce tokens itself, so its still reasonable. One of 2 cards left is Photon Thrasher, that must be Special Summoned and cannot be Normal Summoned and cannot attack at all if you control other monster. Then as a last one there is Scrap Shark, that dies when any effect is activated and when its destroyed be the effect of a "Scrap" card you can send 1 "Scrap" monster to Grave. Out of all monsters with 2100 ATK, none of them is unreasonable for its effect without some kind of counter balance. And only one of them (Rank 4 Xyz) can attack twice. That means all cards in game that this card can relate to are worse than this card. But there is more. We have 1 custom card with 2100 ATK so lets check it out. Crystal Giant, that is Level 5 monster with ability to special summon itself by destroying 2 "Crystal" cards, and when its send to the graveyard you can add 1 "Crystal" monster from your deck to your hand. Still worse than this card. 97 cards that are better balanced than this one card. Coincidence? I think not.


    As part of series:
    >Being part of condition for Special Summon of 2 other monsters - one directly and one indirectly.
    >Relation with 2 cards - "Instinct of the Manslayer" and "Battousai the Manslayer" - that give this card too many options for OTK. Lets go over most basic combo with this card that leads to OTK. You Normal Summon Marauding Captain, Special Summon Kenshin, equip Marauding with Axe of Despair, attack twice with Kenshin to clear the board out of monsters, use Instinct to Special Summon Manslayer, and then you have exactly 8000 damage. You don't need luck at all to get this combo out. And that was it, without me thinking over more complicated OTK, using only old school cards in combination with those customs.
    >Relation with "Amakaeru Ryu no Hirameki!!!" - a quick-play that can be activated from hand, negate the attack, destroy monster and inflict damage to your opponent.


    Need more Dakka?

    TL;DR - broken as stand alone card, even more with series to help it.
     
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  5. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    As stand alone card (outside of series):

    >Total of 4000 combined ATK and DEF.
    >Ability to attack twice.
    >Once per turn attack negation.
    >Its level 4 Warrior-type monster. With 3 copies of ROTA legal I see Warrior Beatdown coming back to life.
    >He can also be used in Normal Monster Beatdown, when after using No-Skill Drain its 2100 ATK beater.
    >Its only downside(s) - not being able to inflict damage, is very insignificant, when compared to its 3 positive traits. With score 3 to 1, it would need at least one more negative trait to balance it out. (I don't count restriction to being able to control only one monster.)

    There is total of 96 monsters with ATK of 2100.

    5 of them are Normal Monsters over level 4. That's 91 monsters left.

    Next we have 13 Fusion Monsters (all over level 4), 1 Ritual Monster (also over level 4), 13 Synchro Monsters (with only one being level 4) and 14 Xyz Monsters (with none of them being level 4). That leaves us with 50 Regular Effect Monsters. Its worth mentioning that none of previously mentioned had effect that would be unreasonable for monster with this Level/Rank. But back to 50 cards left.

    One of them is Level 5 tuner. With still reasonable effect. Next we have 1 Level 5 Gemini monster. It also have strong, but reasonable effect, giving that it must be Normal Summoned twice OR Special Summoned then Normal Summoned to even use its effect. Also we have 1 Level 6 Spirit monster. Strong and annoying, but still reasonable. So that leaves us with 47 Effect Monsters.

    Only 12 of them are level 4 monsters, and none of monsters over that level have unreasonable effect, except for one Limited Monster.

    1st being Koa'ki Meiru Powerhand. Monster with strong counterbalancing effect and effect negation of effects of LIGHT and DARK monsters. Weaker than Kenshin.

    Next is Worm Rayuken, that can only attack after its flipped face-up and is flipped to vulnerable face-down position after attack, with 1200 DEF to defend itself.

    Very similar monster is Karakuri Muso mdl 818 "Haipa", that changes itself to defense position after attack and when its attacked, leaving it with pathetic 1100 DEF.

    Next we have 3 monsters of "Field Series" that all are 2100/800 monsters that can be discarded to search appropriate Field Spell and cannot live without it. 6 more to go.

    Zombyra the Dark cannot attack directly and looses 200 ATK every time it destroys a monster.

    Naturia Spiderfang can only attack you if you activated some effects during turn in question. Wulf, Lightsworn Beast must be Special Summoned and cannot be Normal Summoned.

    Then there is Phantom Beast Sabre Hawk. It cannot attack if you have non-"Mecha Phantom Beast" monster in your graveyard and cannot attack you directly; gains levels equal to combined levels of all "Mecha Phantom Beast Tokens" you control and if you control a Token you can Tribute it to banish 1 card in either player's Graveyard. This card also cannot be destroyed by battle or card effect if you control a token. So far the strongest one Level 4 2100 ATK monster, but it have only 100 DEF and cannot produce tokens itself, so its still reasonable.

    One of 2 cards left is Photon Thrasher, that must be Special Summoned and cannot be Normal Summoned and cannot attack at all if you control other monster.

    Then as a last one there is Scrap Shark, that dies when any effect is activated and when its destroyed be the effect of a "Scrap" card you can send 1 "Scrap" monster to Grave. Out of all monsters with 2100 ATK, none of them is unreasonable for its effect without some kind of counter balance. And only one of them (Rank 4 Xyz) can attack twice. That means all cards in game that this card can relate to are worse than this card.

    But there is more. We have 1 custom card with 2100 ATK so lets check it out. Crystal Giant, that is Level 5 monster with ability to special summon itself by destroying 2 "Crystal" cards, and when its send to the graveyard you can add 1 "Crystal" monster from your deck to your hand. Still worse than this card. 97 cards that are better balanced than this one card. Coincidence? I think not.


    As part of series:
    >Being part of condition for Special Summon of 2 other monsters - one directly and one indirectly.
    >Relation with 2 cards - "Instinct of the Manslayer" and "Battousai the Manslayer" - that give this card too many options for OTK. Lets go over most basic combo with this card that leads to OTK. You Normal Summon Marauding Captain, Special Summon Kenshin, equip Marauding with Axe of Despair, attack twice with Kenshin to clear the board out of monsters, use Instinct to Special Summon Manslayer, and then you have exactly 8000 damage. You don't need luck at all to get this combo out. And that was it, without me thinking over more complicated OTK, using only old school cards in combination with those customs.
    >Relation with "Amakaeru Ryu no Hirameki!!!" - a quick-play that can be activated from hand, negate the attack, destroy monster and inflict damage to your opponent.


    Need more Dakka?

    TL;DR - broken as stand alone card, even more with series to help it.
     
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  6. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    I got 18 points in Lawful Good, 20 Points in Neutral Good, 14 Points in Chaotic Good. 21 Points in Lawful Neutral. 23 Points in True Neutral, 17 points in Chaotic Neutral. And I got 15 Points in Lawful Evil. 17 Points in Neutral Evil, and 11 Points in Chaotic Evil for some reason. I show shades of literally every single Alignment. But basically I'm Neutral with good tendencies.

    The detailed results of my chart:

    Alignment:

    Lawful Good (18)
    Neutral Good (20)
    Chaotic Good: (14)
    Lawful Neutral: (21)
    True Neutral: (23)
    Chaotic Neutral: (17)
    Lawful Evil: (15)
    Neutral Evil: (17)
    Chaotic Evil: (11)

    Law and Chaos:

    Law: (9)
    Neutral: (11)
    Chaos: (5)

    Good and Evil:

    Good (9)
    Neutral (12)
    Evil (6)
     
  7. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    The test is just terrible.

    I am almost definitely Neutral Good, although you could make an argument for Chaotic Good. The test gave me a very strong Lawful Good read. I'm pretty sure you're Chaotic Neutral. It gave you a strong True Neutral. Brook seems true neutral, but it gave him a read that could either be True Neutral or Lawful Neutral. As such, I'm pretty sure the test is biased away from Chaotic. Additionally, the way it reads Neutral is weird.. But hasn't done anything strange this time, so no need to say anything about it.
     
  8. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    Generally tests like that don't work well. To little options to choose and point system that only creator knows how works. And it only shows how you portrait yourself based on somebody score system. Anyway here is the most legit result of test I could get.
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  9. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    Now that's true neutral.. it's so beautiful.
     
  10. Terra254 Traverse Town Homebody

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    Not sure if this is true or not. I am honest, (usually too honest) and I do stand up for the minority often; but that sometimes makes me look like a bad person, such as me standing up for Rienzel whenever Jaden would talk about how unskilled he was or discourage him and Jaden would get so angry. I guess I do defend people, but probably too aggressively . I probably got this result because of all the questions about community, as I'm very well liked in my community and volunteer often, I'm just not well liked here.
     
  11. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I agree with the test labeling you as lawful good, although you may be neutral good, and with your description of yourself, except for one point. I think you're generally well liked here as well. I know that Jay can get angry easily, so he may well not dislike you. I don't know how I come across, but you're one of the people I like the most in the arena. Probably you, Brook, Droid, and (for reasons unknown to me) Fearless would be the top four.
     
  12. Terra254 Traverse Town Homebody

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    Fearless and Droid are pretty awesome . And Brooklyn of course , but he already knows that . I don't know if you or Brooklyn still have YgoPro (I know I think Riku said he didn't) but we never got to tag duel I think . I know Yakumo has it but a me and Yakumo vs You and Brooklyn would probably somehow end worse than me and riku vs you and Brooklyn . But if everyone else would be willing to do it , I would . I'm not sure , just a suggestion to talk about I guess
     
  13. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    I'd say I'd peg myself as Chaotic Neutral as well for the most part. Dan from Dan VS is an example of this Alignment. And I sorta see him as a relatable character for me. It's actually pretty amazing just how much I do have in common with him. We both even like our hamburgers the same way. With ketchup as the only condiment.[DOUBLEPOST=1426985767][/DOUBLEPOST]
    How the heck did you get that? What did you do confirm without answering anything? o_O[DOUBLEPOST=1426985963][/DOUBLEPOST]
    I remember back when you used to like me...But then I was a total jerk to you and you didn't like me anymore...(which I of course don't blame you for) I've tried so hard to make amends with the people that I've wronged here but I see that it hasn't done any good...I've recently started a new Happy Pill called Zembright Mood Plus. It helps me not get angry as easily and it also helps me to think more clearly.
     
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  14. Terra254 Traverse Town Homebody

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    I was on antidepressants for a while about a year ago and I called them "Happy Pills" too. That's kinda cool. But anyways, I don't know if while I was gone, something happened, but unless fred has said he doesn't like you, He probably does like you or atleast not mind you. I think Fred was just saying those are the people he likes the most. I don't think you should look at it in a negative light, Fred probably didn't mean anything by it other than what he said. Actually, whenever I started taking pills , I remembered when fearless talked about being depressed and to "not trust the pills" ... I thought it was strange and also cool that probably for the majority of my life now, certain things will always remind me of here. I mean, for most people, It's just one thing. Like for Brooklyn , whenever I think of friendship I always remember when Brooklyn said friendship had to be mutual. And honesty will always mind me of fred, both because he's awesome and because of his avatar being honest.
     
  15. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    That name.. Way more interesting than Zoloft.
     
  16. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Fred is a wonderful person. So smart and wise and kind. But I took him for granted...And I also took you for granted...
     
  17. Terra254 Traverse Town Homebody

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    I don't think fred resents you . I can't say as I'm not him, but as for myself, I don't remember a lot of our arguments, much less resent you for them. I don't make it a habit to hold grudges ;I just don't say we are friends because I don't know if you consider us friends, something that brooklyn taught me.
     
  18. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    I do see you all as my friends. I always have. I want to be friends with Yakumo as well but he enjoys trolling me...
     
  19. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    Not really... At least for most of time.
     
  20. Toon-Girl-Abby Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Sooooo...

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    You have GOT to be kidding me. I mean, Yakumo gets True Neutral and I get Chaotic Neutral (And no one else does)?! No way. And worst, apart from my neutral points, my evil is way bigger than my good?! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT THE HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECK?!

    I was gonna post an image of Lucifer from MegaTen here to make a joke but his pics are way too big, so nooooooooooooo.