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it breaks Graceful thogh, when you can draw four extra cards with it. the problem with it's stats is, it can be used as a great defender, for the cost of two sacrifices, that when sent to the grave for any reason lets you draw two cards. and the other two don't have bad effects because they are weak, they are weak because they have good effects.

 

I don't chain, continue

 

I chain Waboku!



Emergency Provisions!


And Accumulated Fortune!


I send Skyscraper and my resolving Waboku to the graveyard to gain 2000 Life Points and Draw 2 cards!

*LP: 10,000*


I'll let Mirage of Nightmare be sent back to my hand.

You may continue.

That is a very good observation Fred...I hadn't noticed that...You're right.

It should have it's effect toned down.

 

It really doesn't break Graceful.
With Graceful, effectively since you discard 2 of the three cards you draw. You only gain one card.
Since you're actually losing a card by playing Graceful in the first place don't gain any more cards than you would have had before.
Graceful is basically a discard method. If you're saying to limit Arc-Gurren because of that, then it's a bit stupid because you can say that with cards like Elemental Hero Necroshade, which essentially gives you a free elemental hero summon without sacrifices. I view that as the same thing. Graceful is a useful way to get cards from your hand into the graveyard that can only activate effects when sent to it or when actually in it.

The fact is, Arc-Gurren, if summoned, it would be hard to destroy it due to high defense meaning it's hard to get the two card effect unless you offer it etc.
And if the opponent uses a card that switches positions of monsters. 0 attack points means that it is basically giving an opponent the equivelent to a direct attack.
The point is, the pro's and con's of Arc-Gurren add up.

 

I activate Black whirlwind!

 

Graceful Charity doesn't affect handsize. It dumps to the grave and resets it back to the way it was.

 

you don't lose a card for graceful, it says drop two, draw three, so you break even, making it a very useful way to drop cards, which is why it is limited. the problem with Arc-gurren would be that it would change Graceful from a useful way to drop cards, to the equivilent of four copies of Pot of Greed, if you drop two copies of Arc-gurren.

 

I activate Mystical Space Typhoon

 

Can't believe I didn't notice this...That's a really good point...

 

Did you let him use a deck that's overpowered?

 

Basically that's exactly what I was saying.
He was saying it means you can draw four cards with Arc-Gurren's effect.
In reality, you would only gain the 2 cards from Arc-Gurren's effect, which is the point of discarding such a high defence card.

Arc-Gurren does not break Graceful Charities effect like he was suggesting, that's my point.
If he's saying combining it with Graceful Charity breaks it, then I say that using Graceful in combination with cards like Necroshade is the equivelent. And I don't regard that as being a broken move. I view that as strategy.

And I'm sorry, but my deck is not over-powered, the fact is, it's hard to summon my monsters in my deck due to the fact they all go up in stages. I need the previous monster on the field to summon the next one. If you can destroy one of those monsters before I summon the next, then that breaks the chain I'm making and I'm effectively screwed.
Also... now I've just revealed my deck's major weakness and flaw...
With people knowing this, it's actually safe to say I won't even win another duel.

 

...What do you mean?

 

quite right, it doesn't break it's effect. as long as you only drop one, it's powerful but not broken, it's like dropping two copies of broww, but once you drop two, it's completly broken, which is why I also suggested limiting it.
edit: That's why you don't let them break it. you didn't see Kaiba leaving Yusei a face-down so Yusei could say "I chain bottomless trap hole to the summon of your BEUD, good luck with the one card you have left."

 

Nothing. I was asking a question after scanning. Just ignore it

yeah, I just noticed that. That's kinda rough

 

Well you can still trust me and Duel me. I won't go out of my way to counter your strategy. Exploiting the weakness of my opponent's Deck is something that I do not do. Only cowards do that.

 

yeah, his deck is just made to get broken playing even while playing fairly, if he gets unlucky

 

Only strategic thinkers do that. There's nothing cowardly about using your brain.

 

Basically I just Duel against every Deck the same way.

 

I think he meant more "I'm not going to go build a new deck so that beating you doesn't take any effort or skill, only cowards would do something like that"

 

I already regarded it as Semi limited, I only have 2 in my deck. (and since these are my custom cards, it's not like anyone else will use them)
In my last duel, that was the one I discarded with Graceful Charity, and the other I used as required fusion matierial for my Arc-Gurren Lagann.
and as for the break chain thing, if I have no cards left due to the effect of Heavy Storm, Giant Trunade or whatever, like what Jaden did to me in our first duel, I have no choice in the matter of if my chain is broken.
During my turn, I didn't give Joey a chance to break my summon chain by making sure I removed his spells/traps. Hence why I said "Sweet, I can now make my move uninterrupted."
Basically, of course I'm gonna try and make sure my chain doesn't get broken. But the duelists here are all very skilled, it's not easy to stop them all the time.
It can happen, and if it does, then I've essentially lost cause it would be super difficult, and near impossible to rebuild that chain. (by then I'll have no lifepoints most likely)
My deck is essentially a relentless assault/all out attack deck deck, I have to build my force and attack right away because if my opponent gains any ground, I'm screwed.

Yeah lol, every deck has a weakness of some kind. I knew this would be it when I made it, but I figured for the power I can control if I have the skill to summon it, then the trade-off of it's weakness is a price I'm willing to pay.

Cheers man. Appreciate the honour of your dueling style.
but again it's strategy, if you have the chance to destroy one of my key monsters, you should do it.
I'm aware of the risks of my deck, it's a fair enough thing for you to do.