The Yu-Gi-Oh! Card Duel Arena 4.0!

Discussion in 'The Playground' started by Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta, May 10, 2011.

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  1. NemesisOmega Moogle Assistant

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    The point of it being able to stop special summoning is that it stops their special summons, so I do it after my monsters are already on the field... sorta like what a blackwing deck does with royal oppression...

    Hang on... if you do that, what happens to Krystia? Is it still in my hand or what?
     
  2. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    with what I changed it to, yes.
    the problem with Krystia is, not only does it negate special summons, you're also using it in a deck with... what? six fairy monsters total? three copies of shire, and three of celestia? ahh, right, two copies of honest too.. eight total.
    and royal oppression doesn't go flying back to the top of your deck if you destroy it so that you can special summon stuff. I'd honestly be fine with you using royal oppression.
     
  3. NemesisOmega Moogle Assistant

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    Okay. Then I activate Monster Reincarnation!
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    I discard: [​IMG]

    Returning: [​IMG]

    Now that I have 4 fairies in my graveyard again, NOW I special summon Archlord Krystia!
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    -Battle Phase-
    Now I attack directly with Judgment Dragon!
     
  4. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I chain to monster reincarnation, a second D.D. crow, removing from play your other shire.
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  5. NemesisOmega Moogle Assistant

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    That's all well and good, but with your hand once again at 0, what's to stop the attack?

    Still at a total of 11,800...
     
  6. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    nothing, but I can keep your stupid archlord out of it.
     
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    so...he who says that light and darkness doesnt belong together are now USING them together?o.O
     
  8. NemesisOmega Moogle Assistant

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    That's game either way...
     
  9. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    not as light and dark, however. I'm using one as a utility card, while using a dominantly light deck.
     
  10. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    *coughypocritecough*
     
  11. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    it is game, but I'd rather not lose to a card that doesn't belong. I am bound to allow you to seek out kaiba, but I'm not confident you will win.
     
  12. NemesisOmega Moogle Assistant

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    Yeah! I won!

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    Now, I'm going to go find Kaiba!
     
  13. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    *coughcoughhasanHinitcough*
     
  14. NemesisOmega Moogle Assistant

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    How does it not belong? It's not like that's the ONLY way to summon it. You can still go the long way for it, and as long as you use it properly, it's very effective...
     
  15. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    oooo~ he got you there...
    it could only be summoned if there are 4 "FAIRY" type monsters in the graveyard...
     
  16. NemesisOmega Moogle Assistant

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    Unlike a number of monsters with that effect, however, Krystia can still be tribute summoned...
     
  17. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    completely ignoring the summoning condition, it isn't increadibly useful if you look at it from a random card draw standpoint. It is a dead draw most of the time, it locks out any special summoning you haven't done yet, and it isn't worth using monster reincarnation on if you lose it, for fear of having something else important drop too.
    It also widens the focus of the deck enough to make it inefficient, JD is very efficient, adding DaD does nothing to hinder efficiency, adding one of the envoys is fine, the second is asking for a dead hand, but unless you get unluky, still fine, and helps summon Dad. But once you add in the archlord, it gets to the point where you have 60 cards, 5 of which are good, and if you don't have four out yet, you can't use the archlord, because you might draw a good monster next turn, it sits in your hand without anything put two cards to help it, it requires two sacrifices, or an increadibly unlikely summoning condition, which doesn't happen often... It's like if I made my lightsworn deck have both envoys in it, without adding any dark cards, because I have necro gardna, and they might be useful. you just shouldn't build decks in a way that would doom them outside of no random card draw, except for in ways that leaving out would doom you with it, like the gigantic number of magic stoppers.
     
  18. NemesisOmega Moogle Assistant

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    You have a fair point, but could you explain a bit on what this part means?
     
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    I think what he means is allowing improperly built Decks to win is unfair. And the Deck you're using would not win in real life. Archlord Krystya would completely wreck a Lightsworn, Chaos or Twilight Deck. And thus this is the reason why I have rule 11.
     
  20. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    if I make an Earth deck, and put in two copies of hydrogeddon, one of oxygeddon, one of H2O bonding, three copies of red-eyes B. chick, three copies of Shire, one of Jenis, one fire-type fairie, Archlord, both envoyes, all the sky scourges, DaD JD, solar recharge, and water dragon, I can summon a lot of great monsters, without random card draw... but the chances of me having the sky scourges, envoys, DaD, JD, Water Dragon, H2O bonding, Archlord, the shires, and the red-eyes B. chicks not be useless, is increadibly low, so my hand would almost always be full of things I can't use, so I would always lose with random draw.
    similarly, if half my deck were cards that negate spells and traps, and another quarter was cards that destroy them, or return them to my opponents hand, I would lose, by not drawing many if any monsters, but if I try to duel here without heavy storm giant trunade feather duster 2 MSTs, magic jammer ect. I would always lose.
     
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