The Lounge: Official Spamzone Community Thread

it is a movie about the creation and destruction of life and the futility of reasoning with concepts of significance and motivation in the face of your creator. the life that is created linearly, as opposed to the lateral reproductive creation, is done for no other reason than "because i can." and it can be destroyed for that very reason. if a being has the ability to create another out of morbid curiosity, there's no love for that creature. according to the movie, faith is both the placeholder for understanding and the catharsis for knowing that you mean nothing to the one who created you. you weren't created for a purpose. there is no meaning to your life. people do things because they can. this isn't a philosophy i necessarily agree with and it's not a cynical deconstruction of humanity, but rather simple speculation. science-fiction is speculative fiction.

 

There are plenty of other films and series that pull off these messages but do so without being bad films. It's hard to separate what interesting concept you extracted from such a train wreck.

 

okay nice conversation see you later

 

...do you have to talk like this?

I pointed out flaws in the film already, and it's a film I really looked forward to and wanted to enjoy a lot. The big interesting concept you brought up kinda falls apart when you put it against all of the things the film does wrong. It feels like a half-thought-up story made to fit the amazing effects more than anything.

Alien manages to show corporate apathy toward employee lives while also being a fantastic thriller utilizing an unconventional starring cast for its time.

Aliens is still a cultural craft of love that reflects the Vietnam War and the idea that technologically superior warriors can be overtaken due to arrogance and the lack of understanding a species like the Xenomorphs.

Prometheus promises to deliver on an intellectual story of creation and nihilism but instead ends up showing countless scientists from the future dying in the dumbest possible ways and who constantly fail to communicate simple messages with each other to preserve their lives, and the most interesting parts were David and the very end with a vaguely-Xenomorph creature appearing from, I kid you not, a woman who just had a C-section of an alien octopus and managed to outrun what is supposedly a member of a technologically and intellectually superior species.

If you don't want to discuss it, fine, but please don't talk like that to me. I respect you more than that.

 

Why?

 

you asked why i thought it was good and replied to my ideas with "nope other things did it better, i won't tell you what things but trust me they're out there, so it still sucks because i say so." (as if somehow doing something "better" discounts what is being discussed) and frankly im exhausted of conversations with you. we agree on nothing aside from foo fighters and rise against and you cannot change the minds of people on the internet. i know that's a pessimistic thing to say but the statistics are not in my favor and there's a precedent at play here so whatever i thought i'd let this one go. but you made it personal by calling me out like that. i don't dislike you but we agree on nothing. conversations become heated and i am just so damn tired of that kind of stuff on a forum. it's not fun anymore. with everyone. not just you. i respect you and your ability to compose your thoughts. you have opinions, you defend them, you stick to your guns. good for you. but we don't have the same opinions and it's always over stupid **** like comics that i don't even care enough about to justify the frustration that comes from the conversations. we've both been here long enough to know the futility of every single interaction between us. they all end with us agreeing to disagree. which would be fine if it wasn't every single one and we had other things in common aside from minor, minor things that end with names of characters. plus our rapport isn't exactly a friendly one. and when it is it's for a brief moment. you are a cool guy but we are not compatible. it's not you. it's not me. it's us. i don't know what happens after i post this aside from regretting it tomorrow morning but i'm clean out of ****s to give for keeping up appearances here.

ps i've never seen an alien movie and don't care to. Prometheus functions as a stand alone film with stand alone ideas. and i'm not trying to sell prometheus as a perfect movie but the ideas being explored are explored creatively and sufficiently enough for me to overlook nitpick things. like dying in dumb ways. and i don't agree with bad communication. if you're talking about the two guys who died first then i'm pretty sure there was a reason they had poor communication.

 

Dude...jeez...I'm sorry...

I'll delete what I said if it means anything? I didn't think you'd take it this personally. I really am sorry...

 

ain't reading below's posts bc I don't want to know anything about it before going in

@haya I also really want to watch alien

 

This thread needs more happy!

 

no do not delete it if you haven't already. do not be offended. i was not offended. i feel no different than i did before i posted that. if anything, it's freeing. my patience for this place is wearing severely thin now that i'm meeting real life people who are claiming my emotions for themselves. text on screen suddenly means much less to me and i am therefore less inclined to play social politics.

 

...you don't have to play social politics. I actually enjoy our debates sometimes, but I feel I went too far now. Yes I screw up things, I'm freely admitting that I shoulda worded my retorts better this time.

Hell, I shoulda just let you say your opinions and not even barge in with my own ideals.

You ain't just text on a screen, man. I saw that with whatever meaning you can parse.

I honestly feel terrible about the whole thing now.

 

i can't tell you how to feel but know that i'm just sitting here peacefully listening to music planning what i want to do tomorrow. this isn't even a deal to me. if you're worried that you've made yourself look bad, i think my wall of text will take some of that weight off. chill.

 

So I'm trying to watch Clone Wars again and there's one thing that really bothers me, and it's the Night Sisters. It just feel so... not like star wars to me. I don't know.

 

I think I would have liked that movie but that' s not the one I watched. And judging from Ridley Scott' s explanations that' s not the movie he meant to make either. Didn' t like it as a horror movie (for the same reasons as Haya I assume), didn' t like it as a SF movie either. Way too cryptic for my taste, and that comes from a guy who loved Lost. The fact that the movie is really the first chapter to a larger story might excuse it though, it was never meant to be a stand alone, so while I did feel hugely let down I' m still looking forward to the sequel(s).

Edit : no wait, the android story did match what you said and that was the part of the movie I did like.

 

I ate some eerily suspicious pizza from my fridge today and then balanced it out by devouring one-half of a full-sized watermelon.

This is what happens when the parents are out. :d

 

Isn't Prometheus the movie with live-action handsome Squidward?

 

I probably would have passed on the sketchy pizza and just went with the watermelon.

 

Pizza is a vegetable and watermelon is a fruit so I think you're doing hella good

 

oh my god, I forgot about this.`

 

Back to college tomorrow. First day of fall quarter.

So starting tonight, I need to--or at least should--start going to bed at a reasonable time. Instead of 11:00 PM-1:00 AM, which is reasonable, but not for college, 10:00 PM-12:00 AM. The 10:00 PM-10:59 PM range will usually be for when I'm really tired from the day.

Goodbye, life. It's been nice knowing you. Goodbye, late nights, except for Friday and Saturday nights and the occasional no day classes days and holidays. It's also been nice knowing you.