Birth by Sleep roxas/ven

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by roxas-final-form, Nov 2, 2008.

  1. ZackX93 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Roxas is not Ven. Ven live 10 years before Kh 1. Roxas was born in Kh 1 thats one fact why roxas can not be Ven.
     
  2. sora+roxas=awesome Merlin's Housekeeper

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    i h8 w8ing for games like this. is there any release date for it?
     
  3. WilliamTheWise Hollow Bastion Committee

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    358/2 days comes out September 29, 2009 in the USA and October 9th, 2009 (September 11th, 2009 with a special store in Europe) in Europe.

    BBS doesn't have a overseas release date yet.
     
  4. Renna Delight Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I'm not nearly as up to date as everyone else, but with what I know I think any relation between Ven and Roxas is wishful thinking. (Or people who came up with theories after looking WAY too hard into plot points.)

    I haven't heard anything official about Ven and Roxas having any connections, so I won't try to figure it out. However, I'll be ecstatic of there is something. Mainly because from day one I've had a theory that Roxas wasn't a complete Nobody. (If Roxas didn't have memories to look back on and if he didn't have feelings then why on Earth did he act the way he did in Twilight Town?)
     
  5. WilliamTheWise Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Fake emotions and memories created by Diz. He did this to help throw off the Organization from finding Roxas.
    How so?
     
  6. Renna Delight Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I feel like slapping myself in the forehead now.
    Really, he built an entire town, never crossed my mind he could make fake emotions.

    Thanks for the insight.
     
  7. WilliamTheWise Hollow Bastion Committee

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    You're welcome, It was only said once in the game alot of people missed it, If I was on my home computer I could find the video of that scene. After Riku captures Roxas, Diz says something alot the lines of "We'll have to give him a new personality, to thorw of his pursers."
     
  8. Renna Delight Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Wait, so wouldn't that mean he had a personality that the Organization would recognize if that was their means of finding him? Meaning he would to have to had one before being captured?

    Dang it, I'm reading too much into this!
     
  9. WilliamTheWise Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Yes, Roxas was basically a confused little nobody. He had no memories of his other so he knew bascailly nothing about the world. Axel taught him somethings, but Roxas basically copied the emotion of other characters when he was sent on missions. Like he learned about love when he spied on Beauty and the beast. He created a new personality based on his life experiences like a normal human being would as they grow up.
    That's not a bad thing. But a personality doesn't mean you have a heart, Every member of Org. 13 had a personality created from the memories of their other, but they don't have hearts.
     
  10. TheCrownedRoxas Twilight Town Denizen

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    Well, when Ven asks Aqua to erase him, he was turned into a nobody. And didn't age. So he went to sora's body, calling himself roxas.
     
  11. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    I doubt that.
    How did Aqua turn him into a Nobody? Did sshe make him into a Heartless? And if that did happen, how and why would he go itno Sora's body and call himself Roxas?
     
  12. memberxiiiroxas Moogle Assistant

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  13. Naqki Traverse Town Homebody

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    I don't remember Sora seeing Ven, may I ask where this occured?
     
  14. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    It is ten years before KH1. The secret ending is NOT to be taken literal. It's one of two things, something happens AFTER KH2 (The ending can take place after, but the game itself before), or, more likely, it represents what path each knight took, (Inverse KK=Darkness, WtD=Twilight, KK=Light)

    And when did Sora ever see Ven?
    If you're referring to the BBS scene where Sora and Riku are playing around and Ven and Terra watch them, it didn't show Sora noticing them from the distance.
    And that scene proves it takes place ten years before it since Sora and Riku are about 4 and 5 years old.
    Not to mention the creator of the game himself said it takes place ten years ago.