~~*Organzation XIII goes to court*~~

"Murluxia planted a fake, to kill Sora. He did this after he lost hope. Nothing to amend.

"Didn't Pika_power already try to argue about this, but had to stop after the bailiff knocked him out cold?"

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150 sat back. This was still technically the cross examination, so he was not allowed to comment.

 

Unfortunately, Kairi saw the flaw in the argument and was pretty sure that the defense would've brought it up too. Thinking back, she remembered Sora had said something about the Underworld and how he was tricked into unlocking the Underdrome for Hades when they tried to save Meg while Hercules was busy dealing with the Hydra. And there was a time before that when they were being chased by Cerberus and Sora had to unlock another keyhole. She wondered which locks Mewtwo was talking about...

Naminé grinned at the idea and turned to Kairi. "Hey, Kairi?"

Kairi was still absorbed in her own thoughts. "Yeah?" she mumbled.

"Roxas and I just broke up!"

Unfortunately, Kairi was barely listening as she was still concerned for Sora. "That's nice," she replied.

Naminé was stunned to hear Kairi say that. She turned back to Roxas. "Um...I don't think she'd believe me even if she WAS listening."

 

Roxas groaned. "Come on! No wonder you were considered a shadow. You have no grasp of acting out emotions. When you are telling someone you broke up, you look either angry or sad, not cheerful. When you get used as a sheild by a weird flower man, you are meant to rage against him, not stand there sad. When you are under stress, you are meant to cry, not kiss." Roxas thought for a moment, the added "Not that I'm complaining".

OoC: A certain chest in KH1. Shaky ground, I know.

 

Naminé raised an eyebrow. "I know how to act on emotions, thank you very much." There was a tinge of annoyance in her tone. "I just try not to so I don't accidentally insult someone." She pursed her lips together as she excused herself. "Excuse me, but I need to go take a "porcelain cruise."" And with that she got down from the audience booth and headed out the doors of the courtroom straight for the bathroom.

 

OOC: I guess that explains it...o.O?

And for mood purposes, this RP needs a liable (very, very fitting) theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyXnf74KEpU

Janexna just looked at Sora, wondering what the hell the kid was blabbering about. She never talked to him directly, mocked him for hiss intelligence, so she didn't know what was the otuburst about. She answered to the charges, only bringing out two questions for him to answer under all of it, despite the fact that Xelax made him explain what each specific charge meant, which was apparently...bad. Then she got distracted by what Xelax was saying, and she didn't know what was his point, as she wasn't as well experienced in terms as he was. All that she could make sense of, was that Mewtwo was replying, and she listened to that, taking it all in. Taking her time to swallow, she went up to counter what was put against her, "Let's see then..."

"What you quoted was merely the consequence for what Sora's heart or what Sora would feel like if he let them destroy his memory, and even in there, he actually warns Sora of what would happen if he did, calling him a ignorant fool for it (and the reference does not count, as there's no proof that he could have known about Repliku's state)." Clearing her throat, she went to say, "The plan could've been the fact that he could've weakened Sora, and Naminé could take over from there. It is pretty clear that his aim is for his heart, not his body. He himself specifically said that he rather not hurt him and left untouched as proven before. Is obvious to me his intention wasn't murder, but he was still in the thought that he could use Sora yet, either knocked out or rendered unable to refuse. Hence, the reason why he didn't say 'kill', or 'destroy', but still kept mentioning his heart. I've yet to see a direct quote where he says his conclusion was to murder him."

"Attempted Murder unfairly, but we'll pass that. Again, she was under orders of Marluxia? And there's nothing to say she acted on her own, because apparently, she doesn't have her own mind? Especially Marluxia telling her to reveal Sora everything? Provide evidence for this where Marluxia actually commands her to, or is this all hypothetical?"

"Jiminy was gone for half, if not more, of the time, and Jiminy has his own body, Jiminy is not a part of Sora's skin, and simply lives in his hood to travel. And everytime the cricket popped up, he looked splendid. Care to provide any evidence as well where Jiminy Cricket was actually harmed?" Janexna questioned, staring at him skeptically. "You don't expect me to believe Sora didn't expect what was going to be in those closed doors, especially as he sensed the power within them, and made a beeline for it? There was a battle there, and he knew it, as so did Donald. The point is, in Aggravated Assault, he did not hit any of them or result to any violence unless he needed to, until they were obviously willing to attack him. Repliku had his sword out and Sora had his Keyblade, which I don't need to point out, it was for defense on all sides. Thus, mutual concensual behavior. Again, a fight doesn't conclude with somebody dying, especially when Marluxia used a clone, instead of himself for it. It's almost like he knew the outcome, don't you think?"

Janexna sighed. "Have you ever played KH?Trust me, I don't think I need to look for prove that Sora had unlocked things as well. The Underworld. In The World That Never Was where he, Riku, nad Mickey raised their Keyblades, and opened up the huge, white doors that led to Xemnas? Treasure chests and other specifics? If you want the evidence handed to you, it would be my guest. The fact is, they could've escaped, so it wasn't imprisonment. And who's to say Riku wasn't there, at that moment? I think is obvious to know that Reverse/Rebirth ran along Sora's story, despite that it was after we played the kid's part, and why it sometimes crossed paths. By that point, who's to say Riku wasn't there already? There's nothing to disprove this, as there was no specific time where he entered, unless you have that. Just as there is to say that we don't know whether Mickey or his phantom/presence, whatever that was that appeared before him, was in the castle at what specific times. That, and Repliku appearing must've played a part on it...you'll probably blame this on Marluxia, but we'll get to that in a second as the next ones discuss this precisely."

"As for the altering of Sora's memories, that would fall in the charge of Mental Damage. Redundancy?"

"The charm had nothing to do with the memory altering, it was merely switched for the convenience of it. She also said she changed its shape. If Larxene did not know of this ability, how did Marluxia? Is there anything to say there is? If it is, please provide it. And that's all I needed for you, agreement that it was perhaps the castle. There's no defacement or attempt of defacement if the person himself does know that the object existed, or had known/held the item. And Marluxia was put in charge of the castle, nobody said he could actually control the building. Things would've been much more easier than, wouldn't it?"

"As we can plainly see in cutscenes and script, nobody was under Marluxia's control, and therefore, Repliku wasn't either, as it is obvious to the viewers that the Replica was acting on its own by then. If they were, Vexen wouldn't have stood up and went face to face with him about ordering him around and muttering about him being elder. He even had to use the Xemnas card to get him to. If they were in Marluxia's control, Axel wouldn't have acted on his own. If they were under Marluxia's control, neither Lexaeus, Zexion, nor Vexen would have plotted against him. Larxene is questionable, but is safe to say that she had her own mind and way to do things that were not on him also. Considering how she is, she would not stand having someone commanding her. While Marluxia was the Lord, that didn't mean he had the members' mind or bodies for his puppetry, they all acted on their own devices. It was either they were free to do what they wanted or Marluxia was not respected. Vexen always experimented, and I don't think there's a rule that says he couldn't."

She took a break there, before continuing.

"Actually, is not sure whether Marluxia approved it or not. The scene blanked out before we could see what actually happened, and Larxene was already making her way to Repliku, which was pointed out by you and Birdman. The memory was already taking place. There's nothing to say whether it was Larxene, or maybe Vexen that told her to, even Axel, I think Naminé might've been at anybody's mercy. Marluxia might've been informed of this after by Larxene or someone else. What way did everything go? We do not know. This is the reason why this is based on speculation, and doesn't stand on its own. Maybe if we had more behind the scenes, then I would say, that yes, you were right. But is unknown at this point. Which is why it should be dropped until there's proof otherwise."

"The Org. or the members, aren't Marluxia's fault, as I already explained why above. It is considered normal confusion, because even if your mind wasn't being altered, wouldn't you be lost and confused on what they were saying anyway? Wouldn't people normally not understand what others' double meanings meant? This is typical natural reaction. I think the whole 'people', Riku and Mickey, that weren't there was answered before in another, so you can take that there. Your analogy has a flaw as well. Marluxia never held the gun, Naminé did. Think of it as a mafia or government soldier. There was a order passed by Person A, and there are consequences if you don't follow them, jail, in this case. But the weapon was not wielded by Person A, so the fact that it hit another bystander from behind that also got shot by the soldier/Person B, was not Person A's fault when he simply ordered for the target, not anything else that he wasn't aware of. So that falls in Person B/soldier shoulders. While it is a toned down punishment, do you see where blame lies and how is it parted? It's a very confusing standard, and a opinion depending on what you believe. I think this is better left in the judge's hand to what he feels is his own opinion over this. But, uh...did you understand what I meant?"

She asked this to him sheepishly, since what she said sounded pretty confusing. She almost got confused herself, really.

Again, it came to a point where Janexna didn't know whether to answer this as this wasn't directed at her stance (though most of the points there she countered above), so she was unsure. But underlining a certain fact, she provided a quote for that, thinking it might help her partner, "There's something that contradicts it, afer this, my senior can answer if he wants to:"

"So yes, there is way of knowing this. I don't know what would it do, but...eh..." Janexna sweatdropped, before shaking her head at the arguement of the charges, not yet convinced that some should stick. "If you give us a moment while you reply, if you are, I would like to discuss this with Xelax thoroughly before decision, and most will depend on your answers." She stopped to look at Naminé first though, watching her head outside, and she sniffed again. Why did she get to get out and she couldn't get water? Wahhhh! Her throat was killing her. Okay, fine, she was the attorney, but still...

T-T

Marluxia just sighed, waiting patiently, but he couldn't think on why everyone was so...passionate about this, as their actions and expressions showed, especially after he gave his opinion on the matter. He didn't "feel" anything to what was said, so he was once again neutral. Still, he tried to make hands of the person that telepathically contacted him, and his eyes immediately fell on the white and purple creature, who he sensed something within before. It was the same as the bailiff. He might not get the death penalty, but he rather have it, go back to the void which he was forcefully taken from, and from what some were saying and with what he read in the strewn papers around the table, have a chance to go back to his original form. What is there left for a Nobody? Nothing.

Something caught his eyes though, another of this Nomura that he had been spotting, though when he saw his name, he grew interested and went to pick it out, seeing that it was a interview. Reading the part where he was mentioned, however, the more he took the words in his head, the more his eyes uncharacteristically bulged out, in shock, fury, and indignancy, a deadly air surrounding him. "IMPOSSIBLE!"

This made Janexna look at him, he noticed, but his trained orbs were on that hideous paper.

WHAT?!! HE WAS SUPPOSE TO BE A GIRL?!!!

Unacceptable! This cannot be true!

OOC: Man, this is how it should be xP. I actually felt calm for once, I don't know what happened....o.O (usually, something in my stomach goes wrong every time I step here to reply). Must be the music. And since is four in the morning (in my state anyway), ICSP perhaps logged off for the night *sigh*.

 

"Very well. You may have more time. I have already got a reply waiting." Sensing the desperate need for water in Janexa, he suggested "Demyx has water, and complete manipulation of it. You have a choice of him, or Stitch coughing up his coffee for you.""

 

Zack, seeing a damsel in distress, went into the back room and came out heaving a giant water cooler, placing the whole thing next to the parched defense attorney. He filled up a 64 oz. cup full of water and handed it to Janexna. Then giving her a cocky wink and flashing a devilish grin, he walked back to his position, his face immediately becoming impassive again and stared back out towards the courtroom.

 

OOC: I was gone for a couple days because my electricity went on the fritz here and had to be fixed. I don't really agree with you that Sora was OOC at all considering he was called a liar and yelled at. In a way I'd think more that ICSP was using his lawyer to go at Sora instead but eh, your POV. Any way, I couldn't answer for Sora etc because my power went out but it seems things went on fine without me so I'll just get caught up. Just one thing though, instead of just calling people OOC can't you guys -ask- what is going on? It would be a lot nicer and not make people just want to walk away. I have not called others OOC and could have. I think it's rather rude and maybe if you let a person explain first before hopping on them, it would just be a kinder gesture and you may see they weren't being so ooc after all. =:/

I did get a chuckle out of poor Marluxia's discovery of once he was going to be a woman. lol

IC

Sora sighed as things raced by him out of control. Perhaps he should not have gotten so angry but the Defense were really trying to set things up and he didn't get it as it was. He had no idea if he should attempt to answer anything now or not since things moved around him and the lawyers were content to argue each point. He didn't get how Xemnas's choice could not allow the decisions against the Organization itself because Larxene was a tool, but Marluxia was responsible for the other people's deaths and the choices they had to make. He didn't get how Xemnas just would let it go but then again...he realized he's a Nobody and the situation passed. He wondered though if Vexen, Zexion and Lexaeus and Axel felt screwed over by this choice. In the end though he supposed Xemnas's decision, even if it messed up Zexion's and Vexen's chances in a way, worked in Axel's favor too because he couldn't be charged for anything against the Organization if Marluxia couldn't who was worse. So, he supposed he should just keep his mouth shut on it.

He decided though to say a couple things. "Guys, I'm not sure what questions I should answer and not answer at this point but I did not lie. I don't like being called a liar, okay? If you want me to answer anything I would but can you be a bit nicer about it and clear? It seems any way you guys are about done so it's probably too late any way."

Harvey frowned. He knew some things would be tossed out but others should have stayed. He decided to go ahead and say a few things.

"Marluxia stated that the power of the Castle Oblivion and Namine were placed in his control. Therefore, anything the Castle Oblivion did to Sora and his friends, I believe Marluxia himself should be held accountable for. This was already brought up in Larxene's trial and it is by his own admission to Vexen that it should stand."

"Now, Sora's memories were affected, but so weren't Donald and Goofy's, so why are they being removed from the charges of mental damage? We cannot verify Jiminy's condition and while people were 'harmed' by not remembering Sora and all that happened a year ago, they seemed to adapt and be alright otherwise so this I can concur with."

"The attempted murder of Sora, I agree can be dropped, because simply we do not know or have any way of proving that despite the fact he wished to use Sora mindlessly under his power, his intentions to kill the Keyblade wielder were obviously far in coming as to a point when he'd no longer be useful, or not at all. However, I do think instead we should add the point of intended imprisonment of Sora instead or something along those lines as he did intend beyond a shadow of a doubt to use Sora under his sway to take over the Organization, under the pretext of a false life and memories or loss of that even."

"Aggravated Assault I concur can be dropped as Marluxia as Larxene was clearly more the aggressor and the charges were dropped from her. Marluxia appeared more to work in the background manipulating scenes and using others. The confrontations between Sora and Marluxia were clearly done by mutual agreement. As for Namine, he never beat on her. He did drag her around and use her as a hostage but that is not aggravated assault."

"Assault of Namine can also be dropped as she was never assaulted. Threats and Coercion should remain."

"Kidnapping Namine and making her a hostage should also remain as these charges are viable. He took Namine by use of his powers and held her hostage as is clear by the evidence presented."

"Child Abuse of Namine and Sora should remain. Sora was forced to act in situations he would not have and also was encouraged to battle his way through things and all under the pretense of a lie. He was made to fight opponents, fight for his life etc. Whether Marluxia did these things direct or not, he encouraged them to include sending Vexen to kill Sora. This would qualify as abuse."

"Apparently we must go by what Xemnas wishes and drop the charges of Conspiracy against the Organization and Xemnas as well as the murder of Vexen. This of course means that it will apply to all members of the Organization that no charges against one another will be accepted. I am concerned that Xemnas should not have this right to make the call alone due to the fact this directly ties in to the choices and deaths of other Organization members and Xemnas was not even present and he gave Marluxia the power to do these decisions. However, if this is his decision and the other Organization members, Lexaeus, Vexen, Axel and Zexion stand by it, then of course, it will be dropped as it was for Larxene."

"Defacement of the Journal and the Charm. I do not see any reasons mentioned that these charges should be dropped. He had control of the Castle Oblivion and Namine and he is getting away with charges simply because he did not show he was directly doing them. The charm was altered as well during their stay. Apparently, it is difficult to charge Marluxia with much simply because he worked behind the scenes but I encourage this court to understand that just because he -did- conceal his own workings, the Castle was very much under his control as he himself stated, so if he gets off on all charges of these natures, it is simply making him less responsible even than Larxene who was clearly doing things under him. If it gets erased, that is up to Judge Erkz, but I think we should be wary of what we just erase from Marluxia's charges as then he gets off exceedingly light, possibly lighter than Larxene did."

"Mental Damage should be altered to that of Sora, Goofy and Donald and Jiminy. They were directly affected and stuck for a year having to get memories fixed that Marluxia ordered altered. I believe Namine's 'mental damage' charge can be placed under Child Abuse, but these 3 others had to endure being forced to miss a whole year of their lives due to what Marluxia forced. It is like being in a coma for a year. I don't see how that was not a punishment those 3 deserved. Also, they were not able to retain their memories of the event to even comprehend why they were stuck as they were and had to be told later. The charge should be altered to reflect this. As for the others affected by this, they seemed to be stable. Just that they did not recall much so I will rescind it otherwise when reflecting everyone Sora knows."

"Imprisoning of Sora, Donald, Goofy, Jiminy. This charge also goes along the lines that it was intended that the Keyblade wielder not even be himself barely to do the bidding of Marluxia. It is an imprisoning of wills as well as leaving them stuck in the Castle Oblivion. Though the Defense brings up a couple points, they have no proof to say that Sora could have just left and been left alone anymore than we have the ability to say he was trapped entirely. The point is he was bound to stay either way because of the allure and trap that Riku and King Mickey were in the castle which Marluxia and others eluded to. A trap does not just have to be bound behind a locked door. Sora promised to find Riku and to help find the King. Of course he was going to do that. Unless the Defense can somehow prove that Marluxia and the other Organization members there under his manipulation did not elude to this factor, I believe Imprisonment should remain."

"Coercion of Sora is a definite. As for Donald and Goofy and Jiminy, these three are his companions and their memories were also being wiped. Do we even know what Marluxia was going to do with the three of them after had he gotten control of Sora? After all, if he had researched Sora, he would know much of Sora's strength comes from his belief in friendship. We can therefore assume either A. he would keep them with Sora in their deluded states, B. he would kill them off or C. he would send them away and they would still be messed up mentally. Therefore, I believe the coercion should remain."

"Sealing Donald and Goofy as cards. This was done in the scene and Marluxia was present there for it. He used the power of the Castle Oblivion which was at his disposal. The cards are not an ability Namine herself had. Therefore it should fall on the responsibility of Marluxia because to be quite frank, there is no one else to put the blame on for any actions the Castle Oblivion had about it. He is at the scene and the event happens. It seems pretty cut and dry to me."

"The last charge of severe mental damage, I will agree to being dropped as all of the participants for the main part seem mentally intact here and able to speak, walk and not have some mental disorder or derangement from the events despite how traumatic they were."

Threats of Namine
Kidnapping/Hostage - Namine
Coercion of Namine
Child abuse Namine, Sora
Imprisoning Namine, Sora, Donald, Goofy, Jiminy
Coercion of Sora, Donald, Goofy, Jiminy
Conspiracy to Control Sora mentally
Mental Damage Sora, Donald, Goofy, Jiminy
Defacement of private property Jiminy's diary, Sora's charm.
Sealing of Donald and Goofy in cards.

"These are the charges I see that I leave up for debate for the Judge to decide and have presented why I think they should remain there. The others, the Defense has shown that though some may be possible, there is no way to prove such other than by testimony or they are thrown out because of the wishes of the Organization members themselves."

 

"I do not see any other intentions... considereing he already told Axel, "After I'm finished with you, Marluxia is next. Also, he said lets end it, and entered with his keyblade ready. I really don't see any other way about it." Xelax replied.

"Yes Mr. Birdman, that list of charges is a little more reasonable."

"The charges are still a little redundant, mental damage, and control metally, and Coersion. Why is there multiple charges filed for the same offense, doesn't it better suit the law to pick whichever crime is most applies the best, rather than list off every charge it might be?"

"Also, I don't see the defacement of property, as this was Namine's doing, and Larxene was shocked when she realized Namine could do that, and Marluxia never even acknowledged she did that."

"Also, child abuse? Namine was never harmed, not even emotionally, since nobodies do not have emotions. Sora was threatened harm when he threatened Marluxia's life. As I began to explain earlier, when someone enters a room with the intent to kill, its called pre meditated murder. And if ther victim of this crime fights back, its called self defense, and therefore cannot be charged with assult or abuse. Especially if he lost the fight."

"Also, the sealing of Cards is a gameplay only fact. It represents the fight system of the video game, it doesn not cannoniz fact that Goofy and Donald were cards. In every fight Donald and Goofy engage in they stand by Sora's side just prior to the fight. They also stand along side him immediatly after the fight. They were not sealed in cards, but rather, the fight system of the video game required cards to be used to do any action. Even Marluxia had to fight using the same system."

Mr. Xelax's thoughts drifted, he wondered what Kristoph would think of him now...

 

Naminé rolled her eyes. "Well, ******bag, did you ever stop and ask yourself WHY Sora went after Marluxia? Not to mention the fact that I was pretty much kidnapped as I was sitting and watching over the limp form of Repliku. Do you honestly THINK I wanted to be taken by HIM again? Oh, and let's not forget the fact that Marluxia threatened me to obey him or else I'd be stuck in that stupid castle for my entire existence! And what's with that damn emotion argument, you..." Of course, she was wasting her breath. No one could hear her in the ladies bathroom stall she was occupying. The entire court proceedings were being broadcast in each stall via flat-screen TV. Kinda like a "pee while you watch" gimmick. Unfortunately, she couldn't do anything else at the moment other than letting nature take its course...

 

Harvey smirked. He knew he had to have Xelax here. "Because Sora had the intentions of stopping Marluxia from doing what he was and there is no declaration he will -kill- Marluxia. If you can run this into the ground, we can go back and say Larxene's statements on 'nighty night sham' and Marluxia's 'scatter your heart to the wind' can be called death threats as well. If we can be told that their statements are not reflective of a death threat, Sora's cannot be held accountable in such a way either as he is actually going against the threats that decided to put him there in the first place."

"Control mentally refers to the fact he was having Namine eradicate his true memories and even was going to erase his memories entirely at a point to have him rebuilt in Marluxia's desired way. Coercion expresses the fact that he had used Namine in the first place to alter Sora's mind and confuse him, causing him to do things against a situation he did not want to be in. He weakened Vexen, Marluxia had Axel kill him after. He was used to move through the Castle, becoming lost in emotion and the intent was to use him and his link to Namine to make him more malleable. They are therefore separate charges. Both were in progress simultaneously but one would make it so he had no free will at all. The other he may have been able to sometime contest when such a time came where he could think clearly."

"Mental damage refers to the fact that Sora, Donald and Goofy, as well as Jiminy, did have mental damage and had to choose between false memories of Castle Oblivion or his real memories which were unlinked. The -healing- process took a whole year to mend because of Marluxia's decision to make Namine mess with his head and use the Keyblader."

"There was no shock in Larxene at all over it. It seems more she planted this on Sora than she was surprised at all. If I am mistaken, please show some proof over it. Marluxia also did not seem surprised by the whole affair at large. He never acknowledged she did it but Sora also didn't bring it up either."

Marluxia was in charge of the Castle Oblivion and the girl Namine. He allowed Larxene to torment her. He also was forcing her to do acts against her will and she was neglected and lonely. He failed in his duty as keeper of the girl to take care of her properly and kept her in a room with a chair. I think abuse holds well enough. Child Abuse on Sora is because he manipulated him, lured him to the Castle Oblivion, forced him to make dire situations and put Sora in danger for personal gain. He induced harm on him, allowing people to go 'test' Sora afterwards, he sent Vexen to 'kill' Sora, whether or not it was intended. They still had to fight, and he also had Axel kill Vexen in front of Sora. We can also bring up the point he put Namine in a hazardous situation placing her in harm's way by using her as a shield against Axel. In the end, Marluxia is directly responsible for the harm that fell to both Namine and Sora."

"Due to the fact it is a game mechanic, I will go ahead and drop this charge as well, though I believe all others should stand. Though some tie in together vaguely, they all represent solid charges on their own. However, I do wish now to establish the fact for certain that Namine's abilities affected Sora and through Sora affected others. They were to take his memories and alter them so that she was the focus of his attention and so he'd forget other things to be more malleable for Marluxia to use."

"Now, where is Marluxia also responsible but for just using Namine? The powers of the Castle are how those 'cards' come to be and how the others that took out memories to create each world Sora would 'go' too once he would open a door. This was seen with both Riku and Sora. Now, since Riku was not a target of Namine, his memory loss which was lesser, was due to his connection to Sora directly. However, the cards were used, which are an item of the Castle Oblivion, to copy his and Sora's memories to make them go through all of the 'worlds' they had been to in the past. These were also used to implant memories into Riku Replica by using Namine AND the cards. The Organization members knew the power of the Castle, which could take people's memories and make them relive the place and control things. Namine's powers broke and linked chains of memories. I think there is confusion on just what exactly Marluxia is responsible for, as well as some members of the Organization here, but the power of the Castle itself under his control needs to be established. I hope you get where I am coming from. It is very plausible with some things Marluxia said, that he was in tune with the Castle in ways others weren't. He in fact did seem to know about Riku Replica's state of being and what Namine had done. He also knew Sora was on his way and set up Axel to have to take him on, using Namine. He also brought Namine to his location without effort at all, targeting her with ease. He is also the one who -did- in fact start off the whole thing using the powers of the Castle to lure Sora there and also put him through worlds of his memories. The Castle was instrumental in his plans, just as DiZ had to make up a 'fake' Twilight Town to put Roxas in so Namine could work on his mind."

"I do accept the dropping of the cards charge, but I do not think it right to avoid the issue he was master of the Castle Oblivion and it had unique powers of its own that in no doubt helped Namine accomplish what she was doing, as well as helped himself greatly. The power of the Castle Oblivion itself and the fact he was in charge of it have to be seen to be separate from what Namine's powers do. She is getting all of the blame but the Organization used the Castle itself and we can see the difference between what happened to Riku with -just- the Castle Oblivion's effects versus what happened to Sora and his friends above because of both the Castle and Namine. I think the other charges really should remain as they are."

"I bring this quote up from DiZ's Ansem Reports to show the fact that the Organization had abilities and Marluxia mainly since he was in charge, that the rooms via the cards do respond to the visitors' memories. This should help divide the issue up of what Namine could do to Sora versus what the Castle properties were under the control of the Organization."

"Now, my last point here. It pertains to Riku Replica. His mind was altered against his will. Marluxia was present there and did once claim him as his own too. His mind in the end could -not- be repaired by Namine, thus leaving him in the state he was in because he had not much of memories to go off of before she was made to do her act. If Larxene is not going to be placed to blame for the plan to use the cards and make Riku Replica forget himself and make him into 'Riku' for the Sora plot, why is not Marluxia at all? He -was- present for it all and oversaw the whole project and condemns Vexen for failure for it, and even uses it as a reason to threaten Vexen with worse if he does not comply to Marluxia's wishes. It is obvious he knew all along these things and therefore I do feel Coercion of Repliku and Mental Damage to Repliku should also be added. There is nothing I can see that clears him of the charges. I do not feel Vexen alone should get charged with things pertaining to Riku Replica because he caved in to demands to avoid being noted as a failure to Xemnas. As far as child abuse and other charges pertaining to Repliku, these would fall on other shoulders though ones' were cleared of it. Also, Namine herself is guilty of 'breaking his Heart' so this would not fall on Marluxia as this was probably not a part of his plans in the end, whether he cared or not. She is not on trial however, so the charge goes to empty air."

Threats of Namine
Kidnapping/Hostage - Namine
Coercion of Namine, Repliku
Child abuse Namine, Sora
Imprisoning Namine, Sora, Donald, Goofy, Jiminy
Coercion of Sora, Donald, Goofy, Jiminy
Conspiracy to Control Sora mentally
Mental Damage Sora, Donald, Goofy, Jiminy, Repliku
Defacement of private property Jiminy's diary, Sora's charm.

Harvey took a sip of coffee and felt tingles in his feet. Were the Defense and Offense actually working a bit less hostile towards one another now? He hoped so. They still had others to try here. He knew that some people were not going to be overly pleased with things here, but at the same time, it was making some progress."

Sora gave a nod and waited. It seemed he was done here, even if the dork didn't apologize for calling him a liar. Ah well, he knew he had done his best. He would just be glad to step down after this and wondered who was next on the Organization charge list.

Riku rubbed his chin contemplatively. He hadn't really met Marluxia so he couldn't judge the guy though he did actually remember other things. He wondered how things were going to go once they were done with the Castle Oblivion Organization members. Xemnas in a way had crippled some longer lasting punishments for them by saying that no charges caused by Organization members against others could be counted but at the same time there was a desire to actually hear reasoning for what some of them had done. He guessed they weren't going to try to let Marluxia take the stand because everyone knew pretty much it was a power ploy so it was better to negotiate charges instead. It was a wise move on the Defense's part. He had to commend them for that.

Repliku could only shake his head. Apparently anything that happened to him was totally not condemnable in the least. Larxene and Marluxia apparently did not get anything out of it at all. He really didn't think that fair but apparently, no one was going to really defend him. It made him realize just how fake he really must seem to the others. It could only leave him feeling a state of misery that he tried to conceal as best he could...as well as a growing raging frustration. If the Nobodies could be shown this mercy then why wasn't he even considered? Why did everything with his name just get eliminated any time it was brought up? He really was feeling little sympathy at all towards any of the Organization right now because apparently they deserved second chances and to write essays while he was just a mention of things that always were canceled out by lack of proof. If they thought it fair that maybe Vexen would get charges for his creation or something stupid but Larxene and Marluxia could just have no charges at all...well that down right upset him immensely. He wondered if he would be placed on trial for what he had done, but didn't even care now. If he was charged, he'd just laugh at this point because what was the deal of it all anyway if the ones who controlled the strings could just get away with it all? Yeah, he was a sad and grumpy little replica but he would maintain his silence, watching and waiting.

 

"Yes. Sora would be a lifeless shell, like what Repliku would be. He knew what Repliku would be, due to appearing behind Namine. He could have found out through his crystal ball. Besides, for denizens of the worlds of Kingdom hearts, loosing a heart is pretty much death. If I were to shatter your mind right now, your body would be living, but you would be gone. Anyway, Murluxia was slashing Sora with a scythe. Nothing about slashing with a scythe gives the message of heartbreak. If it is a blade on a stick he is swinging around at Sora, I would call it aggravated assault." 150 thought for a minute. "Murluxia would not have had to request Namine's help in removing Sora's heart if he could do it himself."

Mewtwo nodded. "I concede. There is no proof."

"Jiminy was always in Sora's hood, correct? Therefore if Murluxia does a flower whirlwind, Jiminy will be hit. The reason Jiminy never is hurt is because Sora almost never gets beaten, and when he does, he is almost always healed before Jiminy makes an appearance. Also, Murluxia threatened Sora and Namine. Sora and Repliku were forced into their actions due to Murluxia's memory changes and their desire to protect Namine. They were forced into the fight, there was nothing consensual about it."

"Murluxia used emotional blackmail to force Sora into the castle, when there was no one there. And there was no one there. Riku only appeared there after Sora, not before. It was said that Riku was drawn to the castle due to Sora being there. One came, the other followed. Why else emerge there? More evidence is that Murluxia was defeated before Riku finished his story. Even when you factor in Riku's incompetence and lack of ability compared to Sora, that is easily factored out, as Sora was stopping more often that Riku. At the time of Sora's appearance, no one dear to him was in the castle." 150 did a mental sigh of relief.

"Larxane had a mind of her own, did she not? Not everything Murluxia did was overlooked by her. We were only told that she was forced to do what she did because of Murluxia. Unless further proof specifies otherwise, the charm falls into this category." Mewtwo had a sudden thought. "Murluxia owned the castle, did he not? Well, that makes him responsible for any damage caused by the castle that was not accidental and the fault of the visitor. The case may be different if Sora forced entry, but Murluxia coaxed him in."

150 spoke. "I have a quote.
Marluxia: Your project has failed, Vexen. Do not disappoint us again.

Vexen: Disappoint YOU? You presume too much, No. 11. I am No. 4, and I will not
stand for your snide remarks!

Marluxia: Yes, you will. This castle and the girl Naminé have been entrusted to
ME. Defy me, and you defy the Organization.

Larxene: Unless I'm mistaken, treason is a CAPITAL crime...

Vexen: This is absurd!

Marluxia: In the name of the Organization, I pronounce your project a failure.
This lapse must be reported to the Superior.

Vexen: No... Please, don't! I beg of you! Leave him out of this!

Marluxia: I will, under one condition.

Vexen: What condition?

Marluxia: You must eliminate Sora personally.

Vexen: Eliminate him?!

Marluxia: You refuse?

Vexen: No...I mean...but...Why would you want that?

Marluxia: Just do it.

Vexen vanishes.

Axel: He'll really do it, you know. He's got no choice.

Marluxia: Neither do we. (walking to Naminé) What to do? Your hero is soon to
be wiped from existence. But he made a promise to you, didn't he?
Isn't that right, Naminé?


This proves two things. One, Murluxia claimed Repliku as his own. Two, 'your hero is soon to be wiped from existance' an attempted murder. I am sure you know what that means, don't you?"

"The org, the members are Murluxia's fault as long as he lays claim to them."

150 smiled, comprehending the statement. "Except that your analogy makes the bystander being shot seem like an avoidable accident. More like this.
There would be person V and B. Person V would be strapped to a wall. Person B would be strapped to the wall behind person V, who person T and S could not see. Person T would threaten person S with imprisonment unless he shot person V. Person S resists, then gives way, and shoots the exact spot person T told him to. Person V and B are hit.

Murluxia as good as fired a strange weapon, that while shooting one person, also hit another group. See? Murluxia gave Namine no choice but to screw with Sora's memories. It is because Murluxia took this reckless, illegal action that others suffered from it. He is still responsible. Namine had little to no part in the shooting. She was just the one holding the gun and pulling the trigger, Murluxia had the sights lined up for her already."

"That could mean anything. Sora finishes stopping Axel hurting Namine. Sora finishes Axel messing with him. Furthermore, it never says Murluxia is next to be finished, only next. Finally, what does Sora do to carry out the 'finishing' to Murluxia? Nothing until Repliku comes in, and Murluxia draws his weapon, followed by Sora. Murluxia always makes the first move."

OoC: The charges of metal damage to everyone Sora knew is not unable to be put through. Repliku, let me handle that charge.

 

OOC: Sure thing, Pika. Harvey was going to drop it because the proof is so sketchy on it because no one seemed mentally 'damaged' by what happened to Sora. Their lives went on even if they were oblivious to him. Sora's, Repliku's, Donald's, Goofy's, Riku's things that happened to them were more 'mental damage' in a way due to the fact they also suffered in the Castle because of it while others outside didn't seem to be really damaged by it...just oblivious. I can see though why you want to try to keep the charge so go for it.

 

OoC: I just noticed something. We brought up the same points in our post, replying with near the same thing. Although you posted yours a minute earlier, I had mine typed up for a few hours while waiting for confirmation to post.

Oh, and I would call it mental damage, that they forgot their saviour. I could argue that because he was the only one with the keyblade at that point, the denizens of the worlds were stripped of hope. Even if that gets shot down, I can always just argue that they forgot memories of a friend due to Namine. Theirs was only minor, but Sora still had to see them to make them remember. This means that Tarzan is out there somewhere, no memories of Sora.

 

OOC: Yeah, I hear your point. In the end, Erkz, our illustrious judge, will have to decide based on how well it is defended and what is presented against it. good luck!

 

Mewtwo glanced at Repliku. I do not like having to drop charges, but Pika_power did try to defend Repliku, and would have succeeded, if not for the bailiff. There had to be something said for the pokemon's determination. He argued with the judge, putting his career on the line, for a clone without anything.

Mewtwo sighed. He had a duty to attack Vexen with everything possible, for Repliku's sake.

 

Xelax thought about something... the charges seemed a little odd. He sat for a moment pondering deep in thought.

"You have yet to substanciate any claims that Marluxia himself was responsible for the damage to the Charm, and the Journal. And Janexna already disproved the fact that Sora and co. were in fact imprisoned. As they closed the door themselves behind them."

Then it happened... it was as if a bolt of lightning struck his head. He once again felf the burning in the back of his right hand. He adjusted his glasses, and then spoke up once again. "In fact, you have yet to prove that the charm was damaged at all, you have also yet to prove that Namine was abused. She was never harmed by Marluxia physically. And being a nobody, she is immune to emotional damage."

 

Mewtwo groaned... Then stood up. I will win. I will get to Vexen...

"There is indeed evidence for all those charges.

The charm was due to Namine? Well we have been told by Namine that Murluxia forced her to do everything she did, apart from leading Sora to the castle. The charm would fall under this category. The charm was defaced. The surface was marred or disfigured. This is what happened to it.

The journal can be placed in two categories. Namine's maniipulation, or the castle itself. Both of these were under Murluxia's control, and Namine was forced to do everything by Murluxia, while the castle was his possession, and if it had such adverse effects, he should not have invited Sora and his friends into it.

Sora and Co. did not close the door behind them. They turned, and Murluxia closed it upon them. Also, they were mentally sealed, as Murluxia forced Namine to pull on his heart, and Murluxia kept luring Sora deeper under false pretences.

Namine was abused, because she was confined to a chair in a room. She was ordered to remain in a castle. She was threatened. And it is well possible that she does have emotions, due to the Ansem reports. Ansem is the leading scientist on hearts, nobodies and darkness. He has said that Namine lacks virtually all the qualities of a nobody. Now, what is the difiining quality of a Nobody? The lack of a heart. Is it unplausible to believe that Namine still had a connection to Kairi's heart, allowing her to feel emotions? Factor in that she donated a year of her life to helping Sora and she was affected by the threat of being locked in a castle forever due to loneliness. It now looks quite likely that she had a heart, or emotions."

150 sat down, waiting. He stared at Vexen. All he had to do was stay around long enough to charge him. After Vexen, someone else could take over.

 

OOC: Seems the RP is moving into a slump. =:/ Is Erkz around still and just watching things? I can see why he's not hopping in, but just wondering. This case actually is moving a lot quicker than Larxene's. Maybe we are getting used to it.

Harvey smirked a bit. The man had his points but at the same time he had his. "Charles Manson ordered and lead a group of teenagers to commit murder and other charges. They were brainwashed into doing these atrocities for him. He is a serial killer while those under him are not considered so due to their natures being examined. He had plans of his own sort of coup. Though he did not kill the people, he was charged with each murder because he led the teens to do so and also conspiracy to murder. He is just one example of a pathological person responsible for charges by being in direct command and having others do his dirty work for him. There is also Jim Jones who led people to be forced to poison themselves to death and I can come up with other serial killers that used -others- to do their biddings while attempting to keep their own hands free of the blood for lighter charges should they be caught."

"Marluxia did lead the Organization stationed there and each person stuck there had a choice to make. If Vexen, Zexion and Lexaeus can actually say they were not motivated to do their acts by how Marluxia was behaving in attempts to avoid problems and stop his betrayal, well I'll be. It is very clear their acts to use Riku to counter Sora and that they knew of the conspiracy on the outwards levels to be done was what motivated them to doing acts at all. They were there under -research- of memories. Why else would they have cared? Marluxia was the one in charge and caused the dissension and troubles there directly."

"The only charge at this point to negotiate is the Charm charge because Sora did get it back, even if it was used as a conspiracy to make him continue on and defaced during his time there. It can move to falling under the coercion and conspiracy of Sora. Anything else should absolutely remain."

"The people were trapped there after being lured into the Castle under false pretenses and they could not just walk out and leave. They all -felt- that the King and Riku -must- be there. Also, you continue to say Sora and them closed the door but in reality as this scene dictates, Marluxia showed up after Goofy said maybe they should close the door...he shows up right in front of the door and it magically closed behind him. (Watch Floor One video here. http://www.kh-vids.net/index.php?page=recomcutsubv3 ). If a carrot is hanged in a box trap and a rabbit goes in to eat the carrot, it was still imprisoned when that box came down. There is nothing at all you have to say otherwise. It is also important to note that at this time, they had NO magic at their disposal or abilities, as Marluxia himself declares to them. The trap was clearly set and the box dropped."

"Next, Even Larxene was killed by her choice and declared herself angry. If Larxene can be angry, Namine can have mental damage from the treatment she received and the fact she had to all she had that was against her wishes to just see a person she was linked to naturally. As I said before, Nobodies have memes and this continues to get ignored except when the Defense wishes to say it is true for their Nobodies over on that side. Larxene's rage was caused by her own hand and lasted a very short time. Namine can be lonely, imprisoned, forced to work for Marluxia, brainwashed, manipulated and held against her will as a hostage. These are forms of abuse and should stand. On another point, even if a child is too young or is mentally handicapped, abuse charges are feasible. The child does not need to -know- it was abused for a court to charge such allegations that are clear."

"I suggest that the charges stand as they are or the Prosecution has no choice but to move these to Xemnas who is condoning by your letter the actions of Marluxia which consisted of a coup meant to take him out of power and also the murder of top Organization members in order to secure himself. He had Vexen murdered quite clearly. He also initiated the entire strife of the Castle Oblivion which caused the untimely deaths of everyone there but one Organization member. There is no reason to remove any charge that remains because of the power of the Castle Oblivion was left in his care as was the girl Namine."

"We can go in circles here but in the end, the charges are as they are and Marluxia is getting off very light if we adhere to the letter Xemnas had drawn up. At this point though, I debate if it is the right choice because the further this case is investigated, the more Marluxia looks even more guilty and he's getting a free ride by the letter Xemnas put out. I could see this for the other members stuck at the Castle because they had to react to his coup, but Marluxia himself is the direct cause of the whole scenario and loss of control. Let's settle this already and move on. Your client is getting off easy with the charges that stand."

Harvey turned and looked at Mewtwo and whispers to get the opinion of his new buddy. He kind of missed Pika because the mental talk thing was creepy and reminded him of someone else, but the guy knew his stuff otherwise. "I believe here we can hold after their responses and then ask the Judge for his choice in the matter to list the crime charges or to go ahead and open up the case against Marluxia of Conspiracies and murder charges against his own members. What do you think?"

 

OOC - I'm still here, watching, waiting, every day I pop in to keep an eye on things. If I am not needed, I don't speak. Bad habit of mine. XD