~~*Organzation XIII goes to court*~~

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  1. OOC: Come on guys, let's just have Erkz post and let it be over T-T. We got....11 members left to go through now. However, before I post, just to make sure I have the agreement from the ones who do the prosecution, do I make Xemnas drop the charges?
     
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    The pokemon looked at Riku, torn between two concepts. Finally he decided. "My aim is to get as much on them as possible. Any understanding of them comes as a bonus, not as the main aim. Axel is by no mean salvagable. He is just as bad as the rest of them, he still brought ruin to people through the want of a heart. I intend to try to get as much on Larxane as possible. I see no reason to pull back. She is unsavable. She has the killer mentality. She has no heart, yet she chooses to display sadism. For her, I refuse to back down."

    Thinking a bit, he then said "Although I do see the point of Larxane loosing the theft charge, and it being replaced with damage of personal property."

    Continuing to drive home the hopelessness of Larxane, he whispered "she is not salvagable. She does not care about anything. She just wants to return to death. I do wish to lay as much on her as possible. Now, can you answer me something. Can I charge her with the crime if Xemnas drops it? Do I have a good chance of getting the charge to stick?"

    Hearing the judge, the pokemon turned, and started to reply. "Vexen said it was in his own interests to change Repliku's memories, to test the toy he made. It was never in Repliku's interests to have that done. He certainly had emotional damage from the experience, and a guardian cannot give permission for a child to be emotionally damaged."
     
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    OOC: I would say that it is Xemnas's rights if he wants to drop the charges he can and the prosecution could be **** and keep them but at the same time, it would be harder to keep them because Xemnas doesn't want them which is why Harvey is asking Xemnas direct.

    OOC: Also, in seriousness, child abuse is one charge. Aggravated Assault definitely stands out as its own. Child abuse can mean pinching a kid too much, neglect, etc. It is a charge separate. =:/

    "I do not believe we should try to charge her with a crime if Xemnas himself isn't going to follow through that he wishes the Organization members defended against acts of other Organization members. That is his right to say as leader of them. We could try but I think it would be a waste of time. The Defense can keep on saying 'but the leader doesn't wish this charge so why should you condemn the individual to death now that the whole thing is over?' thing repeatedly and it is a fact to contest against."

    "The theft charge changing is fine with me as well. As for Axel's situation, that will depend on what the witnesses say about him then and there, to include Roxas as well as the other 3 kids. In the end, I'd just say we use Xemnas's rule in regards and he cannot really set it for -one- Organization member and not all of the others who did things, so let's hear out his response first and decide from there. If he says no, though, I'd advice against trying to fight for charging any members with crimes against the Organization as it is kind of his right to do so."
     
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    OOC: DF... don't get on me about presenting evidence. If you remember the rules, evidence must be approved by the police force, and be related to the charges at hand. Not nessarily approved by the prosectution. Think of how many times Pheonix and Apollo pull evidence out of thier pockets at the last possible second... I don't think Xelax having a notarized statement is that big a deal.

    *TN* I thought I mentioned it... either way, Xemnas would probably dropp the charges anyway... its not out of character. He would probably opt to deal with them himself.

    Xelax sighed in disbelief... he only said the defenses stand on the charges. When someone does that, usually the prosecution rest as does the defense. Then the judge makes his ruling. But that damn poket moster started the whole arguement all over again. The case was getting very redundant. He walked over towards the distressed Larxene, and placed his hand on her shoulder in an effort to reassure her. "Don't worry Larxene, it will be over in just a moment. You'll be fine." He said with a smile.

    Vexen'seyes widened. His only thought was. Oh my goodness... I'm a dad now? How did that happen?
     
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    "But aren't we legally bound to put any charge through? I know that letting this slide now will let them get away with other things. I think they should take the sentence for anything they do against each other, as it still means they are a threat in the outside world. I wish to try to charge her with it, as we are not paying heed to the things they have suffered according to their actions (and punishments from the rest of the org). Otherwise we should just drop all charges, as all of the org have died unnaturally.

    I wish to press the charges here.""
     
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    OOC: Harvey would respond but waiting for Xemnas first as it would seem feasible to do so and not just drone on ahead and leave his statement in the dust.

    Repliku blanched and slid in his seat. Vexen was not his dad. Just ew. He would not forget how he left him victim to that witch and her boss. He had liked him before that but oh he was mad now. Perhaps the relation to being called a kid of Vexen's made him now wish he was a doll instead.

    "Well, it shouldn't be too much longer now on Larxene at least. Only 11 more to go." This wasn't said so optimistic as Riku wished it were. Larxene was a small time sidekick compared to what some others had done. The arguing was only going to get more fueled.

    Sora smirked at Riku's slight sarcasm. "Well at least on the optimistic side we can say we -did- get one of the cases over. That's a start!" Sora's optimism could hurt anyone at times, including himself.
     
  7. OOC: You just had to have me make a decision, right? *sigh* I had to freaking dig my brains and go through multiple reasons for this. I don't want to be unfair.

    And Repliku, the Aggravated Assaults has to fall under the child abuse because is still physical, considering Larxene did them to minors and the same people. Anyway, I don't think is a point on arguing, and let it go. Is not like it just disappeared, they're still there.

    Larxene should've thought more before hitting on Xelax, as he was acting all good-natured and smiling, yet she just smirked slightly to herself, she didn't know whether it was cynically or in sardonic attempt. Even so, she did shrug the hand off her shoulder in a electric shudder, feeling a bit odd with the show of affection which seemed almost distant from the last time she had experienced it, long ago. It was...weird, to put it plainly.

    Don't worry, hmm? Her head still on her arms, she simply drifted her gaze to the Superior. She never really trusted him, a notice that came too late after she already joined to get back her heart, and didn't so now. Though, if he did sign the papers....


    Janexna overheard Mr. Power speaking...she always had a sense of hearing greater than normal, though she kept that to herself, and she went to disliking him again. And to think, she was almost in path that he had the best interest at heart and was planning for fair. Guess that didn't turn out right. So that was his goal? Simply condemn them all because he didn't deem them salvagable or wouldn't let the charges be dropped because he just didn't accept the fact that they can be? Not to mention, the obvious resentment for Larxene was in the tip of the tone and he wasn't going to permit the judge's decision for that reason. Still, the charge left was up to Xemnas, and since the prosecution was wanting the words from the Superior himself, well....she turned to look at the leader, awaiting the decision with nerves, wringling her hands. She was a bit miffed that Xelax talked to Xemnas before to sign the papers and wasn't told, yet now was the moment.

    She could even notice Larxene raising her head a little in interest as Xelax comforted her, her eyes flickering on Xemnas. Janexna had nothing else to say that the prosecution kept arguing, they presented what they can, and it was to the judge's decision. End of. There was no reason to keep this trial on any longer, and it was obvious they were all tired and wanted to move on.


    Marluxia's blankness was taken away at the a moment, as mixture of surprise and dislike lingering on his eyes, though he remained still. They actually left it that Xemnas decided the conspiracy charge. Perfect. Now is a situation where he couldn't predict what his answer would be, though he didn't expect for Xemnas to sign the papers initially either.

    Xemnas was quite jolted out of his own reverie and how intently he was intrigued with the case, until he had heard what Mr. Birdman had placed the decision on him. He had concluded that since he signed the papers, he had escaped from being asked, though as the attorney was quite determined, he took the time to think more on it. What would he gain from keeping the charge? Satisfaction? Perhaps. Served punishment? Maybe. However, there was already the fact that everything was indeed over. The traitors had paid for their conspiracy with death, while Roxas had to go back to Sora, giving up his own existence, not that he ever was suppose to exist. And what would happen after the court sessions reached a finality? Did they return back to darkness where they were summoned back alive, from after being put through the charges and reaching a verdict? It was a lot to to contemplate well, and he knew that he wasn't one to keep a grudge for what happened over a year considering that they all got their deserved fate, and he couldn't and didn't feel such a thing.

    He was much neutral on this matter, among everything else on the trial. Then again, he did think their presence in the court was forced, as they were all dead, even himself. Supposely, he might be going back to his former glory as a human, considering what this Xelax had shown him in these...Nomura interviews. So, to drop them, or to not? To give the members death again, when they weren't even in the Organization any longer, when there wasn't one, and their plans and hard work thrown to nonexistance after it all. Was it worth it now? They could simply go back to darkness and remain there, which is what he wanted to do as he had a path to set upon waiting. Who had summon them?

    Thinking deeply, his nonchalant expression raised up to meet the judge's directly as he opened his mouth, slowly replying, "I have decided to..." He thought it over once more, making sure he was making the right move. "Drop them."

    However, it did not mean they were saved. He had been planning to confront them himself ever since they were back, especially Marluxia. Now was the proper time, when this was all over. Yet, with Roxas...he had to exclude him. The other two Keybearers were on his side, and he could not take on three.


    OOC: I do believe that Xemnas would've dropped them, yet I had to go over pros and cons of this before finally deciding in a unbiased conclusion. Keeping them was close, yet dropping them won it over. Sorry it took long. Though now I'm thinking to having some epic battle for the thread to go with a bang in the end.
     
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    "The pokemon sighed. "So it has to be this way, eh? Very well.

    I wish to press the charge. These people, if allowed into the outside world, have a chance of living next door to me, correct? I believe it is within my rights to support a charge like this, as I have no wish to have people who plotted to murder living near me, or anyone I know. I am sure many other people would agree with me.

    I am pressing the charge of intent to murder."
     
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    Xelax wondered why Larxene shocked him... but figured it was a maturity thing. You know, the kindergarden metality of "act like you hate the one you like" type. But he figured it was best to back off... as it hurt so damn bad. He walked back over to his defense podium. Grasping tightly to the rail to maintain his balance as he was now seeing starts.

    He tried to maintain his compusure, but it looked feeble considering he was weak kneed.
     
  10. OOC: That was the hardest thing I ever had to do. No matter what decision, you'll displease someone. I always hate that type of situation thrown on me T-T. And ICSP, Larxene didn't hit you >.<. She only shrugged a shoulder, and gave you a small electric shock to get your hand off. Xelax is fine :).

    As for the post, I need my brain to recharge.
     
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    OoC: But would Xemnas' opinion change if he found out that they were to survive after the case? I would imagine so.

    One more thing to add to the attempted murdered charge.

    Listen to this:

    Self-defense

    Acting in self-defense or in defense of another person is generally accepted as legal justifications for killing a person in situations that would otherwise have been murder. However, a self-defense killing might be considered manslaughter if the killer established control of the situation before the killing took place. In the case of self-defense it is called a justifiable homicide.

    So it could be downgraded to attempted manslaughter I suppose. Although no one got killed, so I think it can be considered attempted murder, as Larxane made a bit of a speech before trying to deliver the flinal blow."


    OoC: Are we following CoM or RECoM? I would prefer com...
     
  12. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    OOC: Actually... I don't think so... I would think he would opt to handle them himself.
     
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    OOC: Dude, YOU brought it up, not me. And the only thing canon about that entire case was Ema. Everything else contradicts the entire Wright Trilogy timeline. The Phoenix/Apollo point is moot. But since the notarized statement's being accepted, I'll back out quietly.

    BIC:

    Kairi let out a huge sigh. She began the day being ticked off at Xelax for pushing irrelevant beliefs onto the courtroom. However, as time went on, she was starting to shift her pissiness toward the Pokémon prosecutor. As soon as he mentioned that he was trying to tack on as many charges as possible, the respect she had for him declined rapidly. This was supposed to be a fair trial. Harvey and Janexna both seemed to know what they were doing. Xelax wasn't objecting anymore, which was a good thing. ("One more stupid "Objection!" out of him and I'm going to fling my bag of M&Ms at that gaping hole in his cloak") The only one that was making things more difficult was Mr. Power. The judge had finally put all the charges in order. The trial of Larxene was pretty much over and done with. All that was left was for the judge to call judgment. So, why was Pika_Power still insisting on continuing?

    Naminé could feel Kairi's frustration. And at this point, who could blame her? They had finally reached the finish line, but the only thing keeping them from breaking the tape was Mr. Power's charge. "For crying out loud! Just let the judge deem her guilty and get it over with!" she wanted to scream. "We've been at this for seventeen hours straight! Unless making Larxene wait this long and boring her to death is your punishment, there's nothing left to do! Bring the gavel down or I'll freakin' Mind Crush you!" At least that's what was running through her mind when she remembered that she no longer had her powers at the moment. Yes, even someone of her personality had her limits. And judging by the audience and the other attorneys, Pika_Power's insistence was ticking EVERYONE off.

    Kairi was just so worn out from the entire ordeal that she just felt like resting her head on Sora's crotch...er...lap and fall asleep. But she had to stay awake for whatever was coming next. No matter how brain-draining it would be...
     
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    OoC: Wait, so Mr.power can object the note? Wow! That will be useful!

    Jk.

    But I do not see why Kairi hates him/me now. All I/he said was that I/he was trying to get as many charges as possible. I/he is/am goiing to stay within the truth.
     
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    OOC: Ok... but Xelax will just shoot down the objection the same way I did OOC... I doubt Erkz will deny the evidence since evidence was probably only denied once or twice per game... and all sorts of evidence is found at the last minute without being verified in Ace Attorney, and Erkz played the series.

    Also, DF, I brought up the case. But you brought up the rules of evidence.
     
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    OOC: I/we just want this case over and done with already. What page are we at now? I'm on page 13 on the 40 posts per page view. Larxene's not getting off clean. We've established this. I don't know, I'm just tired of arguing about this. It doesn't help that you guys are bringing up the "Sora Justified" thread back from the dead. Why couldn't everyone else just drop the freakin' issue? :bangbang:

    I'm sorry, I'm just so mentally and emotionally drained right now that I just want to wash my hands of the whole thing... :nono:

    *sigh* Maybe if I had my own custom character...maybe like the bailiff or something...:dead:
     
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    OoC: I see...

    The bringing back to life thing for that thread is just a bit of fun, nothing more. Well, it is for me. I am just enjoying the ride.
     
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    OOC: Aggravated Assault stands alone in any court case. But ah well. In any matter, I do see why Xemnas made the decision he did and wouldn't call it OOC. Also, at times it does seem to get a bit serious here. I hope it's not becoming too much a burden. Perhaps, Destiny, you should go ahead and run the bailiff or something to keep you relaxed. I don't see why you couldn't.

    Harvey sighed. "The attempted murder of Sora, that is viable to remain and contest. The situation pertaining to Vexen and all, no, it should be dropped since that is the wish of Xemnas and we have heard it verbally as well as by written statement. I think that is all really we needed to know. Let's not keep on this with Larxene. There are other members here and we should move along."

    Birdman really did want to get Larxene down and move on to the next people. The charges done were apt enough if Xemnas himself were not pressing the issue more. Larxene was just the tip of the iceberg and not even the worst of the worst. Yeah, he might not want her living next door to him but hey, that was not his problem! He just wouldn't tell where he lived. Good idea. After all, after this case, he didn't want any of these guys hunting him down for prosecuting them. He was getting a great sum of munny for this but was it worth having the Organization coming after him? Heck no.
     
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    The dropping of the Vexen stuff I am fine with. That is pertaining to Murluxia and Axel, not Larxane. I do insist on continuing the conspiracy to murder Xemnas charge.
    I would not want Larxane living next to me, or having anything to do with me. Murder is a charge for the publc good, not a personal suing. I feel it is my duty to continue this charge. Theft can be dropped, not murder though."

    Pika_power's motivation was a curious thing. He was not being paid, he came from the pokemon universe, and according to the laws of the Anime, people gave him food and lodging for free. Money was out of the question. No, he came from a fake pokemon yellow version. He hitchhiked between places aftter the memory corrupted, and his current lodging for free was there in the courtroom. The catch was the anime rule again. He had to help out.
     
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    Harvey went to take a sip from his coffee cup and gasped in horror as it was now empty. Oh, the humanity! He looked to the left and right...he had to have more...well drat. "Are you talking of what conspiracy to murder? Vexen? Xemnas? It's not this important, Pika Power. We can let it go here. Xemnas's statement may not exonerate them all of the charges but why shouldn't we just move on. The charges she has now are enough to make it so she doesn't live by you, as you put it, for a good few years."
     
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