Make up the story plot for kh3 (Group Effort)

nah, they play there part I think. they will be part of the story for bbs and they were part of the story for kh1. I think, we've seen enough of them.

I just realized that our wiki site was copyrighted. No one's allowed to steal what we wrote.

 

I'm working on it here and there. It's not something that is going to get done right away. photoshopping a logo isn't very enjoyable. btw, I'm not the greatest when it come to experienced photoshopping. I hate doing that.

 

Ok, so we have detailed a lot of things about the Keybladers.

Eclipse becomes insane, and has her diairies discovered by Riku. Therefore, Riku will try to bring her back into sanity, but to no avail. So we'll need to decided : What happnes to Eclipse? Does she die, or comes to her senses?

Turpis is pretty much a younger masculine version of Maleficent. Maybe her son O.O . He could be somwhow related to her though, which will once agian concern Riku. I repeat, if Turpis got the Emblem Desouls created, then he must be incredibly resourceful. He shouldn't go down easily, and he can definitely afford anything.

Orines is now the oldest one? I'm okay with that, but how old should the Keybladers be? I pictured them being teenagers, like SRK, but does veryone else share that vision? Anything is justifiable when it comes to their ages. For example, we could say that Rin and Oriens are more mature, and are thus older. So we can decide anything. I personally prefer them being as ols as Sora and co. I think their age order will be, from youngest to oldest : Rin, Turpis, Eclipse, Oriens. And then Myst of course, but we all know he's older.

You guys talked a lot about cahracters, and it's difficult to review everything. It sounded awesome, but evermore confusing, as we get more and more ideas. It'd be wise that we each make a chronological timeline for our character.


Now, about making this game. I'm not cool with that, at least not until an eventual KH3 is released. Unless we get Nomura to allow us to make a non-canonical game, which I highly doubt, we'd be in copyright trouble big time. These days, companies like to push the "take legal action" button when they're not sure what's going on.
We can't make a fan fiction either ; the story itself is one, but we thought of too many gameplay elements.
I'm surprised that Pezz says making a game can be illegal even if you keep it for yourself. Come on, many people make games for themselves, so maybe a good part of us are actually copyright-infringing beasts.

And yeah, we can't convert this project into something else. We'd not only need to rewrite everything and remake concepts, but it'll also be an independent project, and we'd abandon KH-Vids for this.
All this adds up into a tremendous amount of work and time spent. We just don't have a solid foundation to build a game ; even assuming all KH fans absolutely aodre our ideas and storyline.



Well, that's a bit depressing. I'm not sure what we should do. I already thought of many games in my head, that will never be made... but that's my head. Here, we get people involved and everything. I don't mind continuing this project even if it forever remains at the design stage.

Opinions? We need to think carefully here.

 

to be honest, we may have already crossed the line. yes making a game like that and keeping it for yourself is still illegal if anyone were to find out. We probably are already in illegal territory here, but I can't help but want to keep going. Ok, I've decided that I will have no part in making any sort of game, but I still want to continue with the wiki and everything. Even though the wiki is written in English, It may still be readable in japan... Wikispaces can translate languages according to the help section. perhaps we should remove our names from the project along with all the links...... I don't want to do that though.
We will not make a game, at least I won't. I we make any sort of story, then it may be best not to go into detail on the wiki. hmmmm.... Kme92. It would be a bad idea for me to photo shop the logo so you can put it on your video.


We need to come to a decision here and set some guidelines. Are we going to continue this or not..... I want to continue. but we need to be careful with what we place on the wiki. We need to post a disclaimer and make it very clear that we are not really making a game. any story that we make can be only have a brief overview on the wiki. No going in depth. perhaps we should remove the gameplay section.

 

Okay, we have no choice but to be wise or regret it. I say we ask a moderator for help. If we already crossed the line, then we muct know what are the fields we cannot touch, and stay out of them. And that must be made ASAP, before we go into so much detail that we would have wasted hours of our lives.

I had the instinct to put a disclaimer on the Wiki already, but I'll expand that idea. All pages should have one, and it needs to mention we won't do the game.

Lilbueno seemed interested in the idea, and I guess we would all like to really make a game, but it can't be done.


As fast as I'd like to act, I prefer having all of your accord first. My idea of contacting a moderator isn't necessarily the best, so if you can think of something, say it.

 

go ahead StarSeeker99. the sooner the better. We'll have to make it like a plain old story. If we do just that and make it crystal clear that we aren't doing anything extra, then I think we should be fine.

 

IF, and only IF we keep it story based. If that means dropping all of the gameplay ideas, then we msut know it as soon as possible.

 

we should still keep the transforming keyblades

 

We better keep the transforming keyblades after all the time i spent drawing them! lol

 

it's not part of the game play so we can probably keep it. lolz.

btw, StarSeeker, making a game for yourself is not illegal. however if that game abuses copyright laws, then it is illegal.

Edit: Ok, let's bring the subject back on track now. StarSeeker99 last was wondering about the keybladers age.

Well I've always thought of Rin and Eclipse being the youngest. Rin would be about Riku's age. Then there is Blaze who falls in the middle. After that comes Turpis and then Oriens. Oriens is like a father figure.

 

If we didn't keep the keyblades after we tlaked about it so much and drew them, i would seriously hold Nomura at gunpoint and force him to include them in his next game.


and about the ages, yea I agree.

Rin, Eclipse, Blaze, Turpis and Oriens (from youngest to oldest)
Oriens and Turpis would be about 19-20? I'm thinking Axel's age if not a little younger, We don't want them too old.

I think Oriens and Turpis would have been partners sometime before Oriens found Eclipse. Rin then came under the care of Turpis and ORiens and probably thought of them as older brothers then after Turpis leaves Rin feels betrayed, so she'd be more agressive towards him as opposed to Oriens being disappointed. OR Rin could never trust Turpis and Oriens would always tell her Turpis is a good guy just rough around the edges (Since we've brought up Bleach before, if you look up Gin Ichimaru you'll see how Rukia Kuchiki never trusted him and he always intimdated her even when he wasn't talking to her, something similar to that)

Then Turpis leaves, Rin either feels betrayed (as opposed to Oriens believe he had a good reason) or feels like he finally showed his true colors.
Rin leaves to uphold the keyblade laws? idk but then Oriens find Eclipse.

Blaze never comes across any of them in a similar manner, so he taught himself and is against the team Oriens tried to make simply because he's used to being alone, he probably comes across Turpis after Turpis' defection.

That's what I got so far.

BTW i'm almost done with Turpis' backstory but I want to include this so I want everyone's agreement since this involves the other characters.

 

That's a good idea, but we'll have to fix some things here and there. let's wait to hear what the others have to say. btw, you may want to remove the first paragraph of your reply. It would be such a great idea to keep that up lolz.

 

Yeah, lilbueno, not that I like censorship, but your comment is a bit harsh...

I think that for the characters, we're making a bit too many connections. Oriens and Turpis knew each other? Ok. But remember that they came out of hidings, and that they haven't appeared earlier.
Also, thye have different ideas. Rin is a tough girl, and she sticks to her rules, so much that she will have to choose between opposing SRK or aiding themI don't really see her hangig around Turpis. OR, if she did, then she would've left before being close enough to feel betrayed.

Now that I think about it, our Keybladers come from different worlds, don't they? Isn't Rin from Destiny Islands? What about the rest? They definitely have, each one of them, the power to travel through the worlds, but that doesn't mean they'll use it non-stop. Rin, for example (I really started developing her character in my mind), doesn't want to meddle, and will thus NOT use her power to travel.

Speaking of which, I thought about a scene where Rin meets Riku. It must happen very early in the game, because this would be the scene that convinces Rin to use her powers and explore the worlds, as long as she doens't meddle. This means tht Riku's second world must be Destiny Islands.

It does make sense that Riku returns to Destiny Islands, because after meeting Blaze, and, later on, Leon's gang, he'll be worried about Kairi. And what about Sora? Well, what about having him also go back to Destiny Islands as a second world? Someone mentionned that the charactrs must eventually meet in groups of 2 a few times. It makes complete sense that Sora and Riku return home to warn Kairi about the danger they learned, and find out she left on her adventure. It will also make them NOT look for each other, since they decide they must continue separately.

 

It was a joke lol I think people would get that.

Rin from Destiny Islands? It'd be weird introducing a new girl from the Islands since no one mentioned her, even if she was from the main island Kairi would have met her before KH2. Can you think of how many introductions we'd have to make? Each Keyblader would have to meet every other Keyblader and SRK, I thought we agreed earlier that Oriens would have tried to unite all the Keybladers. Before I got on board with this, I read the wiki and I figured all the Keybladers knew each other. Pezz already stated Eclipse met Oriens, I want Turpis to have worked with Oriens (read further down), and I pictured Rin as Oriens partner DURING the game, mostly because they are the "goodest" new characters. Not everyone knows everyone.
Eclipse would only have met Oriens
Rin would know Oriens and Turpis
Turpis would know ORiens and Rin
Blaze kind of seems out of the loop, which is why I thought he should meet Turpis but any other Keyblader would be fine. On second thought, it would be nice if Riku had to explain to the Keybladers about Blaze, just to show they don't know everything.

Anyway, Pezz wrote Oriens death earlier at the hands of Turpis.
I wrote Oriens SUPPOSED death at Turpis' hands.
The reason in my scene why Turpis blasted Oriens off the edge and left without seeing the outcome is because he wanted Oriens out of his way even if he had to kill him himself but he barely had the heart to murder his old friend so he turned around so he wouldn't see his death. In Pezz's scene where he finally murdered Oriens, he was aiming at Kairi so here he would see himself murder his old friend and something in him would snap. This'll lead to his demise later.

Speaking of Rin's decision to not meddle, I think each Keyblader needs a specific goal. Turpis is trying to kill Xehanort to get revenge for stealing his research and then he will continue his research in order to....do something, I haven't decided yet.
Eclipse is trying to destroy all Heartless
What are Oriens, Rin's, and Blaze's goals? After discovering they had Keyblades, I don't think they would try to live normal lives. Unless Rin didn't travel because she kept her power a secret so she wouldn't be out of the ordinary.

Blaze travels through Portals of Darkness
Turpis travels the same way DeSouls travel, (I think he invented this method and integrated it into the, I think Pezz called them, "minions" he was trying to make so when the Desouls were accidentally created, they had this same power)
Oriens maybe has a gummi ship? I think at least one of them should have one

I like this, and then she gets angry at him because he not only travels, he meddles. BUt why doesn't she want to meddle? The law that says no meddling came from Disney Castle, right? That's why Donald and Goofy have Sora transform in each world so no one knows he comes from another world. Maybe she had a connection to the Disney Castle before getting a Keyblade? It'd be too weird making a new character from Disney Islands.

It would be nice to have them not look for each other since that is what has been happening in every game so far.




Quick question: when you're replying to a post and you scroll down, you see the "thread review", has that always been there??? I did not notice til jsut now

 

Yes, the Thread Review has always been there. I was suprised when I saw it too.

Ok, your argumnets are pretty solid, so I agree with having Rin know other Keybladers. Oriens of course, because they are the "goodest", and therefore Turpis as well.
Where does Rin come from, er... let's leave that for later. Still, we need a reason explaining why she was on Destiny Islands when she met Kairi, and when she meets Riku (the scene I'm thinking of right now).
And actually, I thought she would be on GOOD terms with Riku. We already decided she will disagree with Sora. Rememebr, Riku's not meddling. In his story, he will always be the last of the SRK group to involve himself in the world's affairs, assuming he actually does openly.

No, the "don't meddle" law isn't from Disney Castle. King Triton was aware of it, for example. Alladdin understood without much problems that he can't follow Sora, etc.


Interesting thing you point out with Turpis unwilling to actually kill Oriens.

Finally, about their objectives.
Blaze first. Wasn't it him who despises the power of Darkness he holds? Therefore, his actions should be concentrated on either finishing off the Heartless, or maybe kill Maleficent.
I say he seeks Maleficient. If he seeks to destroy the Heartless, than he shares Eclipse's vision. We can then have them meet, work together, and probably separate, since Eclipse is willing to also destroy the worlds.
If not, I'd find it cool to have Maleficient being threathened. Sounds like somethign new ; she won't a big bad boss that annoys you until the very end.
Now, Oriens. Since he's the oldest and most mature, and also represent Hope, he must have noble intentions.
Oh, I know! Pezz already thought of it. He wants to train Kairi in shcieving her full potential. And, upon learning about the Desouls, he'll instantly figure out Kairi, being a pure Heart, plays a large role. In the end, when Kairi will have to purify the corrupted Kingdom Hearts, the others will know he had been right. Unfortunately, he won't be around to see his efforts rewarded.

As for Rin, I already thought of her wanting to live a peaceful life, but that's kinda boring. Especially when you're a Keyblader.
Now, I realise that Rin is the youngest. I agree with your age order, btw. We all had about the same age ideas.
If Rin is young, then she must be also somewhat curious and adventurous. Her rulebook prevents her from going aroudn the worlds, meddling... but she can just travel and have as much fun as she can, without meddling. That would explain why she was on Destiny Islands too.
Actually, I imagined her coming to DI to watch the sunrise/set from the small island. Since she restrained herself so much with not meddling and everything, since years, then she can actually like seeing new worlds, since she did so very few times.

Random Thought :
Why do I always end up having Rin be exactly like a female version of Riku??? He too wanted to visit new places.

Well anyway, I pictured her meeting Riku on that island with the paopu tree. Of course, her habit of coming there must be recent, otherwise she would've bumped into SRK. Anyway, Riku was to mutter that he's happy he can always come back to his favorite spot in the universe, and then Rin, out of nowhere, will say that she too likes this place. But in the end, they'll just chat for a little while, agreeing that seeing worlds is cool, but meddling is bad. Riku would not know she's a Keyblader just yet, but Kairi's story will make the players know otherwise (gameplay element, ooooooooooh).
Rin, on the other hand, will know about Riku. I dunno how yet. But talking with him will convince her of travelling more, because the universe is in danger, and she can definitely make exceptions now.

Okay, got carried away.
I AM doing chemistry exercices right now after all (lol), so sorry if my Post is disorganised.

 

The thread review would have helped me a lot before...wow i feel stupid lol

Where Rin comes from? I have an idea, she could be from Highnoon Hamlet since her world has a timeless sky she likes to go to Destiny Islands to watch the sunsets she can't watch on her world. Well, when I thought the law came from Disney Castle, I kind of pictured Rin being Queen Minnie's assistant or something, a little girl Minnie, for lack of a better world, mentored.
That's how she knew about everyone else, because she heard everything. Mickey and Minnie probably didn't mention her because she was just a normal girl working at the castle and then she discovered her keyblade.
This makes a little contradiction though, she can't be from both places, unless she lived at Highnoon Hamlet and was only at Disney Castle part-time.

I like the idea of Blaze going after Maleficent, I mean I love it, you have no idea what a good idea it was. Not only would that give Blaze a goal, it makes another plot-line. He is outside every group and has no teammates, his goal is completely different then everyone else.
Oriens would probably know more than everyone else, so yea he would know about Kairi, and that's probably why he trained her. The whole teacher dying for student seems cliche but it's always a nice touch.

I like working like this, even though we all have a separate Keyblader to flesh out, we end up fleshing out the other's a lil bit since no one is fleshing them out.

and wow chemistry? interesting subject as long as you have a good teacher...otherwise it sucks