Is Satan actually evil?

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  1. Cin Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp

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    To be honest, I don't think anyone is evil. There's no such thing as evil. There are different points of veiw, there's insanity, there's people that find fun in pain, but there's no such thing as evil. For anyone that is evil, will find those that oppose him as evil. It's all universal, and in way evil can define all life in one way or another. And if Christians beleive that Satan defines evil, then that's their opinion. But he's imperfect like everyone else, and if imperfection is evil, I migh as well go on a killing spree tomorrow.
     
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    So your saying blowing up people is not evil as long as you have your view on it?
     
  3. Cin Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp

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    Exactly.

    Like Al Quida beleives they will go to heaven by commting suicide and killing other people with them. They see us as evil. and we see them as evil.
     
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    I thnk there is evil. I believe Hitler is evil. Some say Hitler was Satan. Now, this may mean Satan is evil. But I think that Satan is just a make believe character to teach people lessons and morals.
     
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    Well, it does kinda make sense. Like you said everyone has their different views and what we consider evil they consider good. There is evil, but it's different with different people, right?
     
  6. Cin Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp

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    Exactly, which means there is no true definition for evil, and therefore there is no such thing. No one is evil, and this goes for Satan as well.
     
  7. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    Okay...

    1. Hades was NOT evil. He was lord of the dead, a GOD. He was one of the main 3 mythological figures. He was PURELY there to escort humans to the land of the dead. It was considered a GENERIC place to go after death. It was never evil. Not even Charon was evil.

    2. You don't go to hell for life of torture. There is different levels. After death if you go to hell, you constantly repent and learn to the belief of God (according to Cin) and then go to purgatory, where you climb the mountain cleansing you of Sin. You never stay in hell.


    We all DO have opinions, like from an Athiest point of view, God AND satan, along with hell, don't exist. Thus they ultimately believe in evolution. People who wrote the bible were people who just thought up a reasonable logical explanaition for how Mankind started. Satan, was just the SYMBOL of evil, not actually evil all together.
     
  8. Tallian Banned

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    Ummm....Was that in the bible? Because I don't remember that. It sounds like something out of the novel Gahenna.
     
  9. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    It doesn't have to be from the Bible. The Bible was a collection of scriptures describing past events. Along with religious belief.

    And by Symbol, I mean just a well thought out explaination for unexplainable things. Which is why FAITH was brought up...
     
  10. Xehsin Destiny Islands Resident

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    I agree with Cin, there is no "evil" in the world at all. Its just different perspectives on one topic. Say that your father is really ill, your the boy/girl. What would you do? You want your father to feel better right? Then they would go steal a bank and get money for that expensive medicine, or they might just steal the medicine. You see its just that people do certain actions because of certain reasons. Adolf Hitler had his own reasons. So no there isnt anything evil.
     
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    Allright. Cin does have a point about there might not be evil, but there is evil. I understand what Cin is saying. Cin is saying that there isn't evil because people have different views. If someone blew somebody up. The person who blew up the other person considered it not evil and therefor he considered it right. But, the person who got blown up considered it evil. So there is evil.
     
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    If what you're saying is true Tallian, then everyone is evil.

    And as for Satan - I love reading all these views. Maybe he is truly the good one?
     
  13. Xehsin Destiny Islands Resident

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    there is no good or bad. As we've said, its our own perspective. Tallain.. if a bomber blew himself up and killed another life.. the family of the victim would think that its bad. But maybe the bomber had his reasons. Just because someone says something, that doesn't mean that its true. There really isn't any god, religion or anything imo. They were all made at a time when people wanted to live peacefully, so they made rules. Like Hell, or Satan. The parents said "don't do that or else you'll go to hell" it was made as a threat. Just to stop people from doing bad things. But then again.. what is a "bad" thing? Nothing is bad.
     
  14. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    No, because it's based on positional interpretation. If you're walking down a side walk, and you drop something in a yard, and there's a sign that says "beware of dog" that's the owner saying "Stay out of my territory" and it's considered a sin if you go in, but you are going to just get something really fast, you aren't seeing it this way. Evil is just the same as perfection. It is not ABSOLUTE. Satan, to most christians, is considered Sin/evil incarnet, or perfected. Actually, no, he is not. Satan is just as evil as you and I, because if he really brought sin here, and we do it every day, we aren't any better than him. Evil cannot logically or philosophically described, and it has always been that way. And don't think That just because Lucifer brought Sin here, all of the sudden he is the worst. Because if you really think that, You are demonstrating pure hypocracy. And only if you truly believe all Sin is equal.
     
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    Oh crap.....Roxas has a point. That does make everyone evil. Uhhh...Well, everyone is sort of evil in their own way I think. Humans sin. Sin equals evil. Now I'm confused......:(
     
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    But then Tallian, you think Satan is the evil of all evil...but you say Sin is all equal...then does that not logically mean that we are no better than Satan??
     
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    I believe what I believe. I believe murderers are evil, I believe sin is evil, and I believe satan is evil. That's my view and it's not changing. We are all evil but some people are seperated from evil; people who believe it is wrong. Satan believes in evil and thinks it's right.
     
  18. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    Did you ever think yet that maybe Satan has a reason to believe in this? In reality, it's a battle of the two evils. God is good, sure, Satan is bad, sure, all made because of a misunderstanding, and difference in opinion. If Satan believes in evil and thinks it's good, then God has made good, which in fact, may just be no better, Since some prefer the evil of things.
     
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    But it's not really right to prefer the evil of things.
     
  20. Cin Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp Derp

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    In YOUR opinion. But in others evil may be better.
     
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