Don't Text and Walk

Somehow, I think Noroz would see this and go, "Exactly!"

 

Remember; just because a majority says something, doesn’t make it right.

****** is used in a derogatory manner. ****** isn’t. We’re not talking about ****** or gay. We’re talking about ******. ****** is different, because it is indeed meant derogatorily towards homosexuals. Unless it is used in a derogatory manner, for example, if you look at one man kissing another and calling them “******s.” I would call them out on that. If someone called someone with mental ******ation ‘******’ in a derogatory manner, I’d call them out on it.

That’s not their fault.

If someone in Norway calls someone ******, it is a joking way of saying that someone is acting strangely, often stupidly. However, we don’t call people with mental ******ation ******ed. We often use the actual diagnosis, or “(mentalt) tilbakestÃ¥ende.” (which means mental ******ation)

What you call bigotry it just you interpreting my use of words as a result of prejudice. I do not choose my words to offend. I use my words with the idea that people are capable of understanding that people have different interpretations of words, and that languages change.

I don’t know whether or not you realize this, but the language changes. It’s common to call someone gay when men act in a feminine matter. ****** is not a depiction of how people with mental ******ation anymore. It might have been. It isn’t anymore.

How mature of you.

 

And so the irony of my my paragraph is brought to attention.

That is exactly what was said in the video Misty posted. You call your friends ******s, but you do not call ******s ******s. In fact, you have internalized the statement in that video so strongly that you actually believe they are no longer associated.

I am not seeing any differences.

You failed to answer my question. Who comes to mind when you get called a ******? Who are you being compared to?

That is incorrect. I did not call you or others who use the word ****** bigoted, but those who are bigoted who use similar words. For example, I have heard the same argument used such that you may not call a black man a nigger if you are not one, but that it is fine to use it otherwise; that is without any derogatory connotation or intention to offend, mind.

Whether it has changed or not is not the question. I implicitly stated that I knew its usage had changed when I stated how it was used by the majority of the population. However, this change is similar to gay in that gay is now used with extremely similar regularity to the point that someone might have called this law gay by substituting it into your sentence and it would have held the same meaning to most readers. Neither of these commonly held and accepted changes in usage are welcome, and there is no real difference between them other than the large amount of controversy surrounding sexuality.

Ah, yes, it was rather mature. You could learn a thing or two from me, eh?

Though, to be serious, it seems I was correct based on the rest of your post.

 

If i cannot walk and text, i just walk and chew gum :D

but seriously, texting is for people who cant..."PUT IT DOWN"

 

An idiot, a moron, a fool? Now I know two out of the three words(idiot and moron) practically mean the same exact thing as ****** but I chose them anyway to prove a point. Nowadays they usually aren't used to describe the mentally ******ed but instead just somebody who is a fool or has done something that is considered foolish which is basically what the word ****** is being used for nowadays, no? Yet I'm pretty sure most of us here have used those words without ever knowing the history behind them...just like ******. It's funny how language evolves like that. It's also ironic once you consider that ****** was introduced because it didn't have that connotation and those two were considered derogatory.

Words gain and lose meanings and connotations throughout time. Want an example? Read Shakespeare or better yet the Bible. The amount of double entendres in both are just...wow but most of them have been lost due to language evolving.

I think it should also be said that most people make a distinction between "mentally ******ed" and "******ed" nowadays. To the majority of people, they mean different things despite only one word being added. This doesn't only apply to English either if we take what Noroz said about Norwegian and I can say the same thing about Portuguese.

Now that's my two cents. Not worth much but eh. Let it be known that I'm just doing this because I like to oppose Mak hehe.

 

I usually walk as fast as I can. Typing at the same time would force me to walk and type slowly, in the end I would be wasting my time rather than saving it so no, I never do both at the same time.

True, and like Noroz said the word is only as derogatory as you make it to be anyway.

[video=youtube;LOQTyKlVHQo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOQTyKlVHQo&t=19s[/video]

*gasping at my monocle* Oh my gosh ! She' s totally disrespecting visually impaired people !
Burn the witch ! Burn it alive !

 

Nothing comes to mind, as a matter of fact, because I don't consider it to be "politically incorrect," because it isn't.

My bad, I misread that. But, I have called my (Caucasian) friends nigga' as a joke. But the reason I don't use it to describe a black man, is because it would be taken to be offensive.

I think you are misunderstanding where I am coming from.

My entire point, is that it does not matter which words you use, as long as they are not derogatorily intended. Patman actually brings up a good point of how "blind" is used. Should we be offended by that? No. Because it isn't used in a derogatory manner.

I use gay in a descriptive way. If people take offense to it, it is because they want to take offense to it. My friends don't take offense to being called ******, so actually, in that way, I do agree with what Michael is saying.

Public speaking 101 says to "know your audience."
You speak differently to your parents, friends and strangers.

If I meet a person who happens to have mental ******ation, I'm not going to use the word ******. It has all to do with who you are talking to, which, unfortunately, you seem to be unable to fathom. You should change your voice and use of words depending on who you are talking to. This is the internet. If people expect not to be offended, I would recommend they choose their sites carefully.

I don't care for assumptions being made, that is all. As far as your maturity, I think it would be considered flaming if I started talking about it.

But as a matter of fact, it does make a lot of sense, it just lacks presentation.

My point is this; The Language is never the same. It seems like you think it is. Words are chosen depending on the audience, and it has different meaning depending on the audience. I don't give a crap if you are offended if I use 'gay' or '******' to describe something, it just means that your interpretation is that I am using it in a derogatory manner. I think being offended by words just reflects upon people's ability to objectively analyze, or rather lack of ability.

 

You say it is not, but that is a claim and nothing more. Provide evidence.

Exactly. The arguments used are exactly the same. So, you do not use it to describe those it actually applies to, and then you tell yourself that they are no longer affiliated. But, tell me; if '******' and 'mentally handicapped' are not associated, then why would you call your friends ******s but not a mentally handicapped person? If there is no affiliation, then you have no reason to avoid using it on them. The same with nigger or any other slang term, such as 'gay', which you might not use in the presence of gays. If you avoid using it around a certain group, then why do you? That seems to show that you do in fact believe that it has relevance to them, whatever you claim in this thread.

That goes for you too, GS.

See my point above. If they are truly not relevant to each other, then why do you avoid using them around true ******s?

Please take your own advice. Several on the forum are offended by your use of the word. If you continue to use the word knowing how others will take it, then you are intentionally implying the offense that they take. Know your audience. Why are you willing to treat those with 'mental ******ation' with deference while you openly say that you do not care if members here are offended? Isn't that an obvious double standard?

Exactly! So, use it around the mentally handicapped. If they get offended, it is their fault because you did not mean it in a derogatory manner. They should be punished for their inability to analyze your intentions like everyone else should be.

Correct?