Kingdom Hearts II Discussion of Secret Ending

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  1. deadaim2thegrave Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Everyone I think I might have got it. Right before baldy froze RK ,a dark aura appeared around him. wht if baldy put darkness into RK's body making him losing his memory. which makes RK, xehanort.
     
  2. roxasrwns Merlin's Housekeeper

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    That's pretty much what I thought.
     
  3. Revan Merlin's Housekeeper

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    That'd be cool I guess, It's better than saying that the Old Guy is Xehanort, whose my favorite character due to his wicked kick*** appearance. Baldys just plain ugly.
     
  4. AXELMemerised Traverse Town Homebody

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    okay

    old man
    - xehanorts future self
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    - one of answem the wises followers

    blue haired soldier
    - ansem the wise's apprentice

    blonde haired soldier
    - roxas
    OR
    - jhsadjkfh

    brown haired soldier
    - sora(older)
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    - ansem's follower

    heartless
    - self explanitory

    mickey mouse
    - a black man with big ears

    yeah
    thats how i see it all
     
  5. KeyChaser Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I dun tink the blue "kingdom hearts" is kingdom hearts, i mean, the old man converts his keyblade into a blue ball, which erupts into a blue heart shape moon. This causes the inner darkness of the "xehanort" guy to burts forth, making his eyes turn yellow... ??? er... yea sth liddat...zzz tis is confusing X_X *walks into a wall*
     
  6. clayfair Moogle Assistant

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    Happy to see so many good theories already. Well, here's another for ya'. Just a warning, this will be a bit long.

    1. I think that the movie might take place where the final battle of the Keyblade War was fought. All the keyblades were arranged into a road the honor the ones who fought.

    2. I think there are two types of keyblade, normal (no keychain) and true (with keychain). The normal were strong magical weapons, but they were also completely physical and could not disappear or change shape. This is why the AUs always had their keyblades in hand. The special were very rare and required a very strong heart to use. This was because the user’s heart was needed to manifest the keyblade. The keychain is what the user focused on when manifesting the blade, which is why it can have so many different forms. In the movie only Baldy and Red had keychains so I would say they would be keyblade masters while the AUs were keyblade wielders. Maybe in the first movie it showed the AUs picking up the three keyblades to show that they wanted the power of true keyblades.

    3. I think that Baldy, Red, and the AUs share a common planet of origin, and they represent the two sides that fought. Baldy's side may have had pointy ears, so Saix and Xigbar may have been descended from them, Xigbar may have lived through the war.

    4. I also think the tall AU is Xehanort, mostly. I have thought so since the first movie. In the first one it showed the tall AU split and then come back together, which seems to imply he isn't whole. And as you probably know Xehanort spells 'No Heart' and 'Another' if you rearrange them like an organization name. In an interview Nomura said "these meanings are connected to the [first] secret movie." So what I think is that after they are beaten the tall AU becomes angry and decides to use the power of darkness to increase his power, and that is what causes his eyes to change color. He then proceeds the beat Baldy and Red, but, possibly with his final attack, he does something to lose part of himself, thus creating Xehanort.

    5. I think yellow eyes represent someone willingly using the power of darkness. First, all the heartless have yellow eyes. As did Xehanort heartless, Xemnes, Ansem the Wise, Saix and Xigbar. So what if Saix and Xigbar come from a place where they regularly use the power of darkness. And when Ansem the Wise accepted the power of darkness and became DiZ maybe his eye color changed as well (I don't remember his eye color in the seen where it shows him talking with Micky). And if the tall AU is the one who becomes Xehanort that could account for the eye color. The same goes for the rest of the organization. Maybe they never accepted the power of darkness before they became heartless so as nobodies their eye color was the same as before.

    6. I think that the Blue Haired Girl and Blond Haired Boy are new characters. Though the BHB may have something to do with Roxas and Sora. I would also agree that they were lovers.

    7. I also think Baldy is completely new. Maybe Xehanort's heartless had the same clothing is because that was all he could remember.

    8. I think that the first part takes place in the past, but the part with Micky takes place in the future. The reason is just before the camera goes to Micky the camera jumps. So maybe he either just found where the fight took place or it’s some type of simulation.

    Sorry about the length. Hope it didn't bore you.
     
  7. KeyChaser Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Hmmm... ur theory seems more reliable den most of the other speculations. But none can be confirm till Nomura tell us more. From above, u stated that tall AU went to use his darkness so as to defeat baldy... but den what does the blue "kingdom hearts" moon signifies?

    *I JUS FOUND OUT STH* In the 1st movie, the one that shows the 3 AUs picking up 3 other keyblades, why do they not have those keyblades with them when they are fighting baldy? Does tis mean that the KH2 FM secret ending takes place b4 or after the KH2 secret ending? *total loss now... some1 help*
     
  8. SpookyFish223 Moogle Assistant

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    well, i have a theory of what this video could mean.

    the dude from square enix, whatever his name is, has said that this video is in the past, but it is also kind of in the future. he also said that the characters in the video are completely new characters, though they have some relation to characters we know.

    here is my theory:

    I think this battle we are seeing is in the past, but i think it will represent a battle that will take place in KH3. That would make perfect since, since that guy for enix said its in the past, but also in the future. The three soldiers may represent sora, riku, and kairi. The old man may represent Xehanort, since he is wearing his clothes. Kingdom Hearts had done this before also, because if you remember, that is what they did for Kingdom Hearts 2's secret movie. You saw riku and roxas fighting and it showed the fight you would have with xemnes later on in the game. So we may be looking at a final boss battle that will happen in KH3 or something.

    idk, something to think about. lol
     
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    A past post:
    If thats true, then that would mean the only connection to the KH series these characters have, is that they have keyblades, and Kingdom Hearts itself. Nomura said that hes still thinking of adding Sora and others to KH3. So its possible that these characters have no relation to them whatsoever.
    End past post.

    Nomura said in an interview, "All three soldiers took a while to create, I wanted to give them a Kingdom Hearts feel. Most of the knights hold no relation to any of my previous characters."

    This means theres only three soldiers and only one of them are related to past KH characters.

    I personally think it may be the Roxas-look-alike. '~'
     
  10. KHgamer17 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Okay here we go. Im only gunna post this once.

    First off. FOR THE LOVE OF CRAP STOP CALLING THOSE DAMN SOLDIER/KNIGHTS CHASERS! Who can prove to me they're Chasers? You!? WRONG! Okay, so the word flashed on the screen for 4 seconds. THAT means that the knights are Chasers? Remember the word "Endless" during Deep Dive. WTF is endless??? NOTHING! We all called Nobodies, 'Endless', and we were wrong (well, people theorizing back then called them that) . So stop with the Chaser stuff, for God's sake there is NO reason to call them that.

    Now my theory, which I'm sure nobody will read. I'll put this very simply. I don't think Baldy is Xehanort, or Ansem, cause guess what, kids? Sometimes, when new games are made... SO ARE NEW CHARACTERS! We did this with KH2, also. Every 'Unknown' was a character we already knew. We've seen Xehanort... he isn't bald. We've seen Ansem... he isn't bald. I WILL say that maybe Baldy is somehow related to Xehanort through blood or friendship or something, and the reason I say this is this quote from the Secret Ansem Reports "Xehanort does indeed exhibit extraordinary talents...Too extraordinary... Perhaps they are even superhuman". In the video, we see Baldy do four very interesting things. 1) Shoot the ground straight upward 2) Freeze a knight (who may or may not be Roxas but is in my opinion) 3) Create a replicant of himself and 4) summon a moon (that may or may not be Kingdom Hearts).

    Where are these familiar from? 1) Lexaeus manipulates earth 2) Vexen uses Ice 3) Zexion can create clones to attack you with, and 4) Saix has a moon fetish. Now, my theory is that Baldy either personally, or by giving these powers to Xehanort, somehow is the direct reason for each Organization members power. There. I'm not dead set on this, but I think its a valid observation that doesn't jump to ridiculous conclusions.
     
  11. Jaxed Twilight Town Denizen

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    I'm sure someone already stated this, but I have more info to go with it....
    I am sure that baldy is not xeanort's heartless, xemnas, or ansem the wise....
    I think it's xeanort himself, in the past....What if xeanort was accutally very old, but after he merged with kingdom hearts ( I am assuming he did at the end of trailer) baldy gained new powers and got a lot younger (becoming xeanort), but the price for this power was his memories......
    Is it a likely theory?

    Also and even more farfetched theory.....what if somehow kingdom hearts done something to take all his powers away and memories, the only thing Xeanort could remember is that he must go to kingdom hearts....what if he is going to kingdom hearts to go get his power back....the power that kingdom hearts stole from him long ago......
    And how is this thory?
     
  12. Zed_Azrael Merlin's Housekeeper

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    As much as I'm crazy about the idea of the BHK being Roxas, I think we have a small problem with that theory...

    In an interview with Nomura regarding the SE, he said that none of the soldiers were Sora or Roxas.

    That kind of kills that thread of speculation, doesn't it...?
     
  13. Sanda Kingdom Keeper

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    I think the BHC turned into roxas. When baldy did that freeze thing. He wasnt roxas before when he was a soldier, but he turned into him somehow. Does that make sense? Iono, because that soldier had HUGE feet which makes me think: KID because in KH their feet are enormous?:confused:
     
  14. Zed_Azrael Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Wait...wait...you lost me... BHC? That girl? O_o Care to elaborate?

    Or did you mean the BHS/BHK?
     
  15. Sanda Kingdom Keeper

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    Wah sorry :o Abbreviation for blonde haired soldier [er roxas lookalike] I was using the assigned term, its in a sticky here xD but its dissapeared o.o?
    yea BHK
    EDIT- it was BHS not BHC sorry!!!
     
  16. Devil2Dante Merlin's Housekeeper

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    why do people denie that's not roxas here watch this vid and read my post ok so
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSrPHPeJl0M#pGgK9-PPc2Y

    yes that's the analysis that is roxas ok so here's my post IT IS PAUSE IT AT 6:28,5:01,5:57 COMPARE THAT TO ROXAS COMPARE HIS FIGHTING STYLE

    Theory:
    letter theory:the letter roxas,riku and kairi got from king mickey has a link to this
    Roxas's theory:roxas must've went searching for something and met these too while he was searching. Link: the door you couldn't go through in the mansion
    Blue Haired Girl Theory:people say that's kairi's nobody i really have no idea which nobody is kairi's people say that's Roxas's girl like for example kairi and sora Link:Roxas's Was Looking into her eyes when he was frozen thank you and watch the vid o and the bald guy opened the real gate to kingdom hearts the other ones were fakes probably
     
  17. Zed_Azrael Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Look, I'm not condoning the theory, or anything... It's just a factor of Nomura's interviews. He said that none of them are Roxas.

    (I'm hoping with all of my heart that it is him, though...)

    ^^ No problem...just a bit confused...
     
  18. Devil2Dante Merlin's Housekeeper

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    all i've gotta say is i think he's just saying that so he can fool us so we don't get suspicous i know him a lot and how can that not be roxas his hair style is like his
    and Nomura is a very suspicous man he can fool you but not me you should know i'm an expert at Kh&Kh2 there's a word for it i don't know i'm not saying i'm better than the rest it's just that lot's of people are making stuff up lately and i'm pissed at them
    if there's any question's just ask me or pm me i've got all the answers for some but i don't know who that knight with the color changing eyes is possibly a nobody's nobody from the orginazation
     
  19. KeyChaser Merlin's Housekeeper

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    WHY DO U PPL KEEP SAYING THAT THE BLUE MOON IS KINGDOM HEARTS!!! Its jus shaped like a heart. If u noe, kingdom hearts is golden with a blue outline! Unless Baldy used his keyblade to paint kingdom hearts blue, its is not kingdom hearts!!
     
  20. Mega Moogle Assistant

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    Hmm. The blonde knight's resemblance to Roxas must mean something. Now, I doubt it's truly him, but Nomura wouldn't make him identical without a reason.

    The way I see it, he must be connected to him somehow. Perhaps a past life? Sure, it sounds crazy, but I wouldn't totally say it's impossible. With KH, things CAN get pretty twisted.

    ~Mega
     
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