Kingdom Hearts II Discussion of Secret Ending

well what we discussed earlier was the possibility that each of the symbols of the organization were connected to old keybladers. figuring that since in one of the trailers, Xemnas was waking up some old suit of armor we figured there were more down there. Like Key of Destiny, Graceful Assassin, Savage Nymph and stuff like that. we kind speculated that these names were all former key bladers and that some of the nobodies were incarnation of them


Oh! another possibility just popped up in my head. A veeeeery far fetched one. What if the third Knight at the end was Axel's sombody XD

 

The one with yellow eyes?
That keyblade theory is fascinating o.o amazing theory!!! Thanks so much for sharing that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

gah im extremely sorry if someone already stated this but i dindt feel like reading 21 pages of specs, but blady looks ALOT like xigbar. right down to the pointy ears and yellow eyes. and yeah amber eyes does kinda look like Saix.
but i dunno about the blue haired lady. or that guy who looked like spidy. so yeah im supporting the somebody theory here.

 

wel i was just thinking that the eyes shape and the face sculpt reminded me of axel as i was typing. Hell if it is, it explains why he was so upside with blond knight got hurt and why axel was so upset about roxas leaving. did say he felt like he had a heart around roxas and nobodies have the memories of feelings so hey it could happen XD

Though i still think my Xehanort one is more acurate.

join the club. But then we all have to remember that we never actually saw blue girl die nor did we see mister glowy eyes go bye bye. now the roxas dopplegange...who can actually survive that long as a block of ice >.> Now that i think about it, he probably died.

What I was thinking was the glowy eyes is Xehanort. Saix had pointy ears too >.> and that guy is way too old to be xigbar but i won't rule out the possibility.

 

That guy at the end is Saix.

 

Well we know Roxas isnt completely dead (eyes twicthing blah) but yeah if he stays frozen for even like 30 more seconds he's dead. And when the moon came out, amber eyes did get all berserk >.>

but what i dont see is how baldy can be Xehanort. we saw Xehanort, his nobody, and even his heartless. an older version? maybe. but i dont see much of a resemblance besides clothes.

but anything is possible.

 

For people who think the last knight is saix,look on page 16 and read my post. im not saying ur wrong i just want to see if u agree with me.

 

he does look like him judging by hair but i still feel that there isn't enough similarity to figure out whether it's Saix or not. the reason i say it's Xehanort is not only the eye color and hair, but because

In the first se you see him doubled for a moment just like the bald guy showing possible similarities between the bad guy and good guy.

I was thinking maybe this is an internal conflict of being with the light and dark. He chooses to be the first to attack baldy like he has a score to settle while the other seem to sorta back off.

Xehanort lost his memories at some point so i thought that maybe during the fight, he implored the darkness to aid him (eyes glowing) and he went after the guy. But in the process lost himself in the darkness and wound up at Radiant Garden with no memory what so ever.

basically Xehanort delve a little to far in and lost himself while gaining the victory.

 

Would u think baldy and the E.S are related?or at least sworn enemies?cause when RK went to attack th E.S held him bck and wanted the first hit.Plus they seem to have the exact same eyes ans face expression kinda.

 

I read your post. So you think its Xiggy. :D I totally forgot he had yellow eyes xDDD
You are onto something.
Xigbars nobody is really beat up. As in he was in a fight, a major one at that. Plus he is one of the 'older' members, as well as the 2nd in line so if this is indeed a prequel it'd explain why his nobody is older: because his somebody was.

But then again, Saix has scars as well. Theyre the only two with yellow eyes and scars. THEY have to be connected...Maybe theyre both involvd and the yellow eyes have to do with being in this war
Ok so I still think its Saix, but now im wondering if its Xigbar. And I wanna know how/why they are connected!!!!

 

I'm sure they are related. But think they're about as related as sworn enemies could possibly be. Baldy had to do something to piss the big guy off

I honestly can't make the connection with xigbar...when i look at him and then at the third knight, I just don't see it

plus going by a temporary glow isn't really solid. His eyes are blue.

 

It could be possible tht the E.S was xehanort's partner in ansem's studies maybe?
baldy could have done something to the E.S.like an experiment or something.which he could have pulled him into the darkness causing his eyes to change like tht and be the exact same as baldy's.its just a guess so ut shouldn't e much of a thinker.

 

But they coulve turned yellow. Something about that scene made them change. Maybe Xigbars changed as well. So their scars and eyes were obtained throught the same methods [just going on the assumption i listed above]
IDK im very conflicted


Do you have a pic of the 'thing on the end of the keyblade' you mentioned on page 16 please? I dun know where to look? :( Can you cap it for me :D?

 

yes but remember, if we could see what braig looked liked(xigbar)we could tell but nomura nvr show what the orignal 6 looked like

yes i do have it,i have the pic of his blade but not xigbar's grave. u might have to go to proof of existence on kh2. here is one pic.

 

oh he means the blade of E.S's keyblade. look at it closely and it resemble xigbar's symbol. Maybe it is xigbar. Maybe at the beginning they realized that they were doing wrong with the research and tried to resist. the apprentises i mean. Maybe they found something they didn't want to mess with and that something was baldy

 

I just wish we could see all of ansem's aprentices. they we could decided who they are maybe.cause they would look different than their nobody.jus like xemnas doesnt look anything like xehanort.

 

Wow, that des look like Xiggys symbol. Ok now I cant choose-Saix or Xigbar? Thanks for the pic!!!

"oh he means the blade of E.S's keyblade. look at it closely and it resemble xigbar's symbol. Maybe it is xigbar. Maybe at the beginning they realized that they were doing wrong with the research and tried to resist. the apprentises i mean. Maybe they found something they didn't want to mess with and that something was baldy"
That makes sense. So, Braig, Dilan, Even, Elaeus, and Ienzo were bad but then good? And thats why they were tring to get their hearts back in KH2? Where does Ansem fit into this all?

 

yeah he does. He looks exactly like him. He just has more bangs in the front

welll you see ansem was wise ruler who said lets cut this out so that we won't screw up. but they wanted to drive forward because like most scientists, they had an obsession with making things logical about hearts. I think they uncovered too much and that may be what they mean by uncovering the lost secret/

 

im still trying to figure tht out i need a little bit to ponder.also when xigbar said"Man did it pick a dud this time.U don't look like you're half the hero the others were." i think he is talking about the knights which probably means in the past.and maybe he was the hero keyblade wielder and when he worked with xehanort,xehanort conviniced hhim to turn to darkness.

 

oh yeah, that falls back on the theory we made earlier, that each nobody in Organization XIII was a keyblade master. Also they said only nobodies with strong hearts became part of the organization there for their hearts would've been equivalent in strength to a keyblader. so mayber they all were keybladers