Okay, this needs to be said.

(before you read this thread, I want you to realize you have to read the whole thread in order for you to understand it, and don't do your 'in before lock' gif's, also don't post unless you read the thread.)

[This is coming from not a rebel, not a 'popular', but a member, that tries to see both points and wants this forum to drop the subject]

...where should I begin?


Okay, all of this, it's ridiculous. One reason I'm creating this thread is because Kingdom Glory was not the one who started this crap. It was me, remember? http://kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=37795 see? I made it. So, don't have Kingdom Glory's personal reputation with you a bad one. I feel horrid for making a thread that has just prompted all this.


Second, this is turning into a dumb war, over think about it...a site... on the internet that one human being made. Although that is true, there are people I know that live for this site, they don't have a well life, so they try to get away from there problems here. People's views about this are already considering it a war, they say there are two sides one being the 'rebels' and the 'elites' or more commonly known as the populars.

Now, there are two types of n00bs in my opinion. There are ignorant n00bs that come into a forum knowing the rules, but break them and on purpose act obnoxious. Then there are some n00bs that this is their first forum and are so overwhelmed, especially with all the active members. And they don't realize what they are doing is wrong, even if their told.

I remember when I joined my first forum, I remember how n00bish I was. I did the same as some here, I stole signatures, I spammed, I got warnings, LOL, actually I remember when I got two official warnings. I got so mad that I was going to, get this, make a thread complaining about the staff's "fairness".

Does that not sound familiar? We get those threads every so often now. And we think "Heh, this is so stupid." We all laugh and send halirous gif's and images. But her, we are right, the kid is stupid and needs to grow up, but more importantly, learn. If the administrators just ban without question, nothing's going to happen. Now I'm not saying you never tell them why, but I've seen you guys make fun of the member or simply write 'phail' close the thread, and ban the member.

But if everyone does that, how do you think it's going help us? It won't, because some members will just get pissed and heck, make more accounts, just for revenge. Again, familiar? And others, like swordser, will not stop. I mean lets admit it, most of us have been n00bs, right?

Anyway, you guys, I have spotted some favoritism in the site. But, ****, you guys are only human. Am I not right?

As I stated before examples of this are,
Remember when Roxas, (who is a friend of mine [keep in mind that this isn't coming in the point of view from an enemy]) blamed Namine of KH2 for doing something she didn't do? Well she tried to defend herself, but no one (or at least most of the forum) backed her up. And guess what? She got banned so quick without a word. Later announced, Roxas confessed that he lied. =/ so for most of you who say "you don't need back up" or "we listen to everyone no mater if they just joined or are a mod" it's not always true.

Another, huge, bluntly shown favoritism, again bringing up Alex xD. Remember, the rules have always been "3 warnings = ban"? Lol, how many did he get? In the mean time I saw members getting banned , when the first out of anyone to be getting banned should've been him. I'm sure if it was some random member saying these stuff and posting videos and pictures. They would've been banned in the blink of an eye.

Okay next, I feel some n00bs need a chance. For example, everyone knows rat, right? Well, after he was Mr. Boom and all that ****, which need I remind everyone is against the rules, (but don't ban him for that now, because he knows better now and it'd be worthless anyway) he changed his name to rat. He acted like a noob and I don't know if it was for real or if he was mocking them. Anyway, most of the members hated him for that. But, I thought he was funny. I even publicly told everyone he was and I stood up when people flamed him. =/ No one cared, or noticed for that matter. Later on, after he got unbanned, everyone thought he was cool.

Another example, thanks to an anonymous member, GhettoXemnas, now, he wasn't a n00b. He was kist a disliked member xD after his ban though, everyone liked him. =/
And Ghetto, I don't know why you're saying "Majority wins" it's true, I won't say it isn't, but why are you for them? I mean all those people that flammed you, you're one of them now, and that's what dissapoints me.

As for the staff, I believe they're doing their job fine. It's just their hospitality is lowering the stricter they get. Now being strict is good becuase we don't want the forum to fall apart with n00bs coming in and out and flame wars everywhere. But the hard part is they can't get too strict cause they get hasty and rude, which, lol ironically, brings n00bs in and out and cause flame wars. You guys have to realize this is a hard job, they have to keep they're rules sharp, while balancing with their friendliness. Think about it, have you ever been busy and couldn't go on KHV? Well, if you were staff, in the mean time you have to worry about bots, hackers, flame wars, advertisers, and for admins, errors in the site. I mean they can't be on the site 24/7 and can't be checking every member, every post, every PM, and iP addresses at the same time. This is a huge site and constantly there are members joining for so many reasons. Staff are here for a reason. To stop the site from falling apart. I mean isn't that they're job? How do you think they're going to feel when people are saying all their hard work is not doing any good? They're going to get pissed because they're trying real hard, and all the people do is complain, plus all their doing is influence other members to think what they think, with that, it starts flame wars which is up to them to stop. So they close the thread.

Lol here's the thing that makes me laugh, though. While the staff close the thread and try to give an explanation, the 'rebels' feel that they arn't getting a chance of freedom of speech which makes it feel like 'favoritism'. So they go ahead and make a new thread, which, is just the same cycle and just causes more tension.

Staff, you are the model of what should and should not be done. Wether you realize it or not, members role model you, if not, follow you. Because whatever you do, members automatically find it okay to do.

I've seen staff spam every little while in places they shouldn't. I don't say anything because, as you guys being staff, I think that you know better or to you guys, it's not considered spam. But I mean you guys, give them a break, they're always working, I mean sometimes, you guys find it a surprise to see moderators and administrators demote themselves. Because it's too much responsibility, and some of them already have school work and jobs. Some of you think it's hard to do homework and go on KHV at the same time, try having to work on KHV and doing college homework and have jobs and your own personal life. It's really stressful, but here's the thing, I never see staff complain about that.
Again, staff you're doing great and I'm wishing you luck during this downfall.

Donaut and Muffin have recently been banned for reasons I can not say. I'm really upset at the staff but I know that it's best. For if they didn't it would only show favoritism. Although, the perma ban seemed too much, I'll try to accept it.

The reason I made this thread was for several reasons. 1. I wanted to clear Kingdom Glory's name. You guys lay off him. He's just trying to stand up for something he believes in. He's also not a coward, a coward would let the staff and members continue to act the way they do and follow their lead in fear. He has courage to say what he has to say. He knows he could get banned but he doesn't care. 2. Recently, yesterday, a staff member, said I disappointed him/her even though he/she might not realize it, I was hurt. I started all this, I want to end it. 3. I want everyone to understand everyone's point of view. I want everyone to know that people stuff for reasons. 4. This is getting out of hand and causing break ups in friendships and making enemies. It's going into MSN conversations, not just the forum, and 5. Most importantly, because I love this forum and it's always here when I'm bored or want to get away from reality. People are leaving and it's depressing. I want the forum back up.


Staff, populars, rebels, n00bs, members, I want to put everything behind us asside and I hope you guys to do the same.
It's up to all of us , as a group, in order to change.


Now go ahead, laugh, say what you have to say, I'm just trying to stop the flame wars and try to help out the staff. =/

 

hoooly shet. can you say 'tl;dr'?

Apart from I'm going to read it. xP

 

agreed.

these flame wars are stupid and childish. people who actually do nubbish things are the people tryng to get attention. This forum is getting so annoying and stupid, and people are letting that happen.

 

jesus christ. its an online forum.

 

'One who knows nothing can understand nothing. '

This isn't directed just at you Sora, but everyone. You guys never know the full story, so you don't fully understand the staff's reasons for what we do.

 

Wow.

Just..

Wow.

I agree with you on some points but I don't understand why everyone is suddenly freaking out over favoritism :/

It really isn't that much of an issue and starting another thread that's bound to turn into a war and destined to get closed isn't going to change anything.
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the staff does what they can, but they aren't perfect. no one is. don't ever assume you know everything, its gotten me into trouble before. because i was friends with roxas, i fought for him to get unbanned. it was stupid because i didn't listen to anyone but him. I'm sure some of what he said was true, but he probably made the story more in his favor. it's best to just roll with whatever the staff does and accept it, because they're doing what they believe is right, and mostly, it pays off in the long run. it's just like politics. you don't always agree with what the government does, but they're usually doing what they believe will make the country a better place. you can try and be a "rebel" but you usually just end up looking stupid.

 

Needs Fresh Prince lyrics at the end. >.>

*goes to read*

 

1. I think the staff can all agree that Roxas was a mistake and regret favouring him. So if we could please forget about him and his shenanigans? P:

2. The staff are basically just members with powers. They don't 'work their asses' off, I hope they don't regard anything they do on here as strenuous or stressfull. Not that I don't appreciate their thread-locking prowess or patience with nubs, but I find it kind of weird that everyone thinks they devote their life and soul to protecting this site or fending off 'hackers'. xD

3. I really hate it when people post something gay like 'phail' in response to a thread. :\ It only contributes to the fail. What makes it worse is when people are like "o u pwned him good thar". Please, if I wanted to see a bunch of **** engaging in a circle jerk, I would not come to khv for it.

 

Hey! My toosh fell off due to my hard work.

 

This whole thing is starting to tick me off.

Like Kitty said, we don't know the entire story for what the staff does. We make assumptions as to why they did what they did. And like I've said before: Assumptions aren't actualities. I can assume that DW was banned for hacking the site but I would be wrong because I made an assumption. Know what you are talking about before speaking about it.

As for you clearing iPraise's name, all you've really done was 'Lookit me. I started this. Memememe. Meeeeee.' Instead of letting everyone move on, all you've done is gotten everyone, myself included, fired up again over it. He made his choice to speak out without knowing the entirety of the situation. As you yourself have made this attention whore-ish thread about the subject.

The only way anyone gets 'popular' if someone else makes them that way. It is not the fault of anyone but the members themselves. All you really have to blame for certain members popularity is yourselves.

As for the three strikes and you're out rule, that was made BECAUSE Roxas was banned so many times. Made AFTER his final ban. Again...you don't know the entirety. GX has improved since his first ban, I admit that. He's not as annoying as he was when he first joined.

This will be the last post I make on this topic. I say again: Let the subject die and let us move on. Let the staff do their jobs as they have been doing. They are staff for good reason. If you have a problem with how they do things: PM THEM ABOUT IT WITH YOUR REASONING WHY. DON"T MAKE THREADS ABOUT IT. Since it just leads to lulzy drama in the end.

 

Your avatar looks like a chipmunk version of you.

 

Quoted for truth

Quoted for beauty

Quoted for effect


Seriously guys, chill ^^

This is a community, we ALL need to improve, not just staff not just prems, but even the ordinary members. ​

 

ok...look

im not sure where i fit in
noob..member..poplular

i dont care which one i am but ill tell u all somthing

we just need to treat everyone equaly!
yes i know some people dont like other people but REALLY! u shouldnt be banned from somthing dumb
u shouldnt ban cuz u can
and maybe if ur friend (or u) were banned MAYBE (godforrbid) they actually BROKE A RULE! (and got warnings)
i trust the mods and and admins to do there job fairly

yes some mods and admins are kinda mean somtimes by just coming into a thread and beeing like " oh im closing this cuz i can"

but i love this site and yes i have a life outside of this place and i would like to keep this place up and i dont want it to got down cuz were in the middle of a war (as if)

so please just take a deep breath and relax

with more people comes more fighting more populars more noobs

its apart of a fourms life

the old leave
the noobs/members become the regulars (popular whatever)
at new noobs come

we just need to relax and calm down!

FOR KH-VIDS SAKE!

 

I was sure I was the only one who thought that! :DD

 

This thread was made entirely to stop the commotion =/ but if you guys didn't get the message, I'm sorry.

 

By request of creator...

Closed.