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  1. Gritz
    Maybe it's cause the writers were too lazy to come up with some characterization and story for Kairi so they just gave her Namine as a nobody as a way to make her "special". The reason for Namine being Kairi's nobody was so convoluted and unessesarily complicated. With Sora, it was pretty simple. He was an actual heartless(the monster) at some point and he got Roxas as a result.
    Post by: Gritz, Feb 8, 2009 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  2. Gritz
    My issue is less with his duds and more with the fact that he was given nothing interesting to do.
    Post by: Gritz, Nov 17, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  3. Gritz
    I think Namine was originally a stand-alone. But they(stupidly) decided to make her Kairi's nobody.

    So, yes. Kairi might have these abilities.
    Post by: Gritz, Jul 15, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  4. Gritz
    I believe that her becoming a fighting girl won't save her. It would be awkward and forced. She doesn't new powers. She DESPERATLY needs character development. She was denied this in both games.

    She does not get brownie points because she's cheerful and nice. She's plastic.
    Post by: Gritz, Jul 12, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  5. Gritz
    Yes, we are. Back on topic.

    Yes, I do dislike Kairi. Fanfic Kairi is okay though.
    Post by: Gritz, Jul 11, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  6. Gritz
    I didn't much like Mulan, but I agree with you. Kairi would have rocked if she was like Leia or Bastila Shan from Star Wars: KOTOR.
    Post by: Gritz, Jul 8, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  7. Gritz
    Not really, she just made the game annoying. So, Sora's only saving the worlds to get a lil' somthin, somthin?

    If Kairi was a Princess Leia type, she would be GREAT!! Leia kicked ass.
    Post by: Gritz, Jul 8, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  8. Gritz
    That's really true. KH2 Kairi was the most irritating. She served little purpose. Why did the Org XIII want her kidnapped anyway? They never explained this fully. It seems they did it for shits and giggles.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 29, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  9. Gritz
    In a way, KH2 Kairi is better. But this is like asking "which do you prefer? "Crap or glittery crap"?

    It's still crap.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 28, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  10. Gritz
    Actually, that made her worse. Now she is a definate Mary Sue. She didn't need weapons or fighting abilities. She needed character development and flaws.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 28, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  11. Gritz

    Ok. First off, I suggest you go back and reread what those scenes meant. Cause what you just conveyed is ignorant.

    Sakura was dealing with her confidence issues and the fact that she would never leave Ino's shadow. She believed that all she would ever be was Ino's right-hand girl.

    Ino told her that she was a bud. A late bloomer. But Ino was showing her that like most "late bloomers", when they finally blossom, they are amazingly beautiful.

    It dealt with Sakura's character and personality development.

    Old Sakura had little going for her? Just Blind Fangirlism?! The MAJORITY of Sakura's character was developed in her "fangirl" days. Kishimoto designed her to be immature about her feelings and such so it would be meaningful when she developed and walked down the path that would lead her to her Part II self.

    She did nothing Ninja-ey? Hmm, Protecting her teammates from the Sound Nins, being able to Block off a high level genjutsu by Kabuto, Being the first to complete tree climbing. Saving Sasuke's life, saving Naruto's life?

    I'd say she did alot more in Part I than she is given credit for. But it's not fighting or how much ninja stuff she accomplished that makes Sakura a great character as compared to Kairi. It's character development. How you character changes and adapts to situations.

    Kairi isn't a plausible character in the slightest. She is only a plot device used to only give the plot alittle push.

    Kairi is a princess? Who cares? There are plenty of princesses with character and depth. Kairi is not one of them. Only a plot device. And because of the fact that she is viewed as a character, I deem her a Mary-Sue not worthy of anyone's time. She's two-dimensional and predictable. And she gets Namine as a nobody, which I thought was bullshit. The way she gets Namine was horribly contrived and unnecessarily complicated.

    My point is, even though Kairi is a Princess of Heart, it is the ONLY way she is tied to this game. Hell, if she is some all powerful princess, then the producers could have made her use some of those damn powers. But other than turning Sora back into a human, she did nothing. Her only real state seems to be either unconsious, or kidnapped. Kairi is a plot-driven shallow character, there is nothing else to do with her. Everything else feels forced and out of place.

    People don't have to DO stuff(persay) to be good characters. Character development goes a long way. But Sakura has plenty, and Kairi hs Zilch. Therefore, Sakura(Part I and especially Part II) will ALWAYS been 100x better than Kairi.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 25, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  12. Gritz
    You have optimism. But I don't think Noruma is gonna do anything. I don't think he cares. Kairi was never a character to him. Only a means to an end.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 24, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  13. Gritz
    ...That better be a bad joke. Sakura old version had more character and depth in her little pinky fniger, than Kairi has in her perfect little plastic body. Maybe Kairi needs some flower picking scenes, as those scenes gave us a look at Sakura's character and what she was all about.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 24, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  14. Gritz
    Neither. And for some reason, KH2 Kairi was more annoying than KH1. Reason? She got a Keyblade for no reason. Nuff said!
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 23, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  15. Gritz
    Thank you for the compliment. Much obliged!

    By the way, Repliku, This debate in particular is off topic. Just ignore.

    She isn't a"supposedly" better character. Sakura is a BETTER character than Kairi in EVERY WAY! That is the GOSPEL truth. Kairi saved Sora's existance due to a cliche deus ex machina. Cause, face it, somebody had to turn him back to normal. If it had been his friends or Riku, it would have been so much more interesting than Kairi's "deep feelings" for Sora.

    That was Fangirl Sakura. When she was still immature and only liked Sasuke for his "looks". Otherwise known as a...FLAW!!!. Which made her interesting when she matured in her feelings. Name ONE personality flaw that Kairi has.


    You are grasping at straws here trying to defend Kairi. She was watching her teammates viciously fight each other and aim deadly jutsus at each other. She was upset. It was not supposed to be practical and logical. It was an emotional scene. And one that showcased Sakura's feelings about the event. When has Kairi ever had that?

    Haha! You are not comparing Sakura getting captured in battle to Kairi getting captured twice(The second time for NO reason). Plus, Has Kairi ever got captured for protecting someone from a deathblow? I think not!

    You seem to equate fighting techniques with character and personality development. Though Sakura utter RAPES Kairi in both. That scene was an excellent scene of character development for Sakura. It showed tha she was now shedding her fangirl personality and was now taking the buisness of being a ninja seriously(This development actually begin in the Land of Waves Arc when she cried over Sasuke's "dead" body)

    The FOD was where Sakura really begin to come into her own as a character. Kairi has NEVER had this.


    Haha, that Abridged quote is real funny. And we are not comparing their fighting experience. WE are comparing there character development. The things that make these characters tick. And talking about how Sakura has CD in abundance. Kairi IS A GLORIFED DEUS EX MACHINA with no personality or engaging flaws. She is a Mary Sue.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 22, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  16. Gritz
    I hope that you are not comparing Haruno Sakura(A character with flaws and development) to Kairi. As for screentime, there is no excuse. Kairi is supposed to be the third part of the trinity(Sora,Riku,Kairi) and Noruma didn't give a damn. Also, ever heard the saying, "There are no small roles. Only small actors". It's not about how much screentime you got. It's about what you do with the screentime that you are given.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 21, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  17. Gritz
    Selphie was a mere shell of her former self in KH and she was STILL more kickass than Kairi.

    It's not that there are too many males in KH. It's that the females suck. Hell, there ae alot of males in Naruto. But the females have something called PERSONALITY and DEPTH! Unlike our pretty little princess.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 20, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  18. Gritz
    I don't see why she's flipping her hair. She just swatted some small fodders away. I could do what she did. And cooler too.

    She's pathetic.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 19, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  19. Gritz
    That Keyblade part is what cemented my disdain for her? I though the Keyblade chose it's wielder? Now, it seems they grow on trees.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 17, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  20. Gritz
    Kairi's not anything. She's nice and she cares. But why does that earn her brownie points? Everyone is nice. That is why I can barely read KH fics. She is so teeth grindingly perfect that any scene with her feels like you wanna slap her and tell that she is **** for no damn reason.

    Noruma ****ed up with Kairi. And it is getting WAY too late to fix.
    Post by: Gritz, Jun 15, 2008 in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX