No, I'm not doing that at all ICSP. We are talking about Ansem/DiZ and I find it amusing you turn it into that. I am not going to say Ansem was justified. He wasn't. Pay attention to what I said there. He was NOT Justified!!! Because somehow you always ignore things or add things and I think you don't read things clear. The point though here is that he could be -understood-, just as some Org members could. Ansem's collateral damage was far less than what the Org's was. He just wanted revenge and to stop especially the top members of the Organization that had screwed him and his world over, and countless others. I will never say he was a great guy (accept in the beginning of course) but at least he admitted he was wrong on things, which the Org, other than Axel, did not. He did not -just- do it to satisfy vengeance but to also stop a people that had done a crime that was horrible. Really, if you can justify Saix and how he tormented people, as well as Xaldin and try to make them out to be good guys, then why is Ansem screwed over to not be also an acceptable person who had problems? That's really kind of fanboyish to the Org and as much as I think the Org is cool, being so hard on Ansem because he was against the Org is just ironic. They -did- harm him and others greatly. He got stuck on revenge. It happens. He's one of the more feasible characters in the game for it, even though personally I didn't care for him that much. I did see his plight and feel some sympathy. Also -no one- treated Namine well accept for Sora, Riku, Repliku, Kairi and Roxas (who had little choice any way). The Org never treated her well and had her locked in a Castle and mocked her, forcing her to do things, etc. Roxas wasn't treated that great in the Org either. he even makes the comment that no one will miss him when he leaves, even though Axel says he would have. Axel makes the comment he didn't like really anyone but Roxas in the Org as a friend. Demyx could also be considered to have been mistreated in the Org and forced to that lifeway. It's also clear that the neophytes, other than Saix who was Xemnas's lap dog, obviously weren't so happy with things, and the superior higher members weren't either with the neophytes. Riku is a big boy and could blow off DiZ's nature because he understood it and just didn't cater to it. He's adaptable and I doubt he'd say DiZ hurt him in any way because he didn't let himself get oppressed. If anything, Riku was also trying to save DiZ from self-destruction, even as he was helping Namine and trying to save things from Roxas's time. In the end, your hero Saix did worse to the neophytes and to the heroes than DiZ did by far. DiZ never had someone on their hands and knees begging willing to give ultimate surrender to save someone. Mostly what DiZ did was -words- and plots that never came to fruition because of others interceding and not letting him. We can't say that for the Org members, even against themselves. Riku and Mickey didn't help DiZ but to deter him and in the end DiZ listened. We can't say that for the Organization that again, never once confided in Sora, Riku, Mickey or anyone what the heck they were totally doing and why, and what their plans were after. Namine didn't totally understand their plans. So, yes, we don't know the great scheme of the Org except for what we were told, but at the same time, Ansem was stopped for the most part and had a change of Heart, but he wasn't the 'bad guy' anymore than the Org was. If you can keep justifying the Org members like Saix, I think Ansem deserves a little more comprehension and acknowledgment too. Otherwise I seriously am just calling this off as fanboy attitude that the Org is holier than thou and nothing was wrong with it, even if they couldn't get along with each other even and everyone else opposing it and any Nobody was horribly wrong. Lastly, you use the argument that the Org didn't have Hearts so doing their awful things was justifiable. They still had memes and natures that they could control, whether they 'desired' to or not. On the same note it can be argued that the Org had no Hearts so it's okay for them to act as they did...it is also acceptable to have a Heart that is torn, abused and wounded and would seek revenge for it as Ansem did. Having a Heart or not having a Heart obviously can be a weakness or strength, depending on the circumstances. How many people can say they have never been so wrapped up in a negative emotion or a few at once that it takes time to get over?
I am torn on the issue as I have seen some things I can't explain and felt stuff kind of akin to what is on Ghost Hunters a few times. I do believe there is something there and it is an interesting phenomenon and that the energy that is emitted by paranormal things like ghosts is pretty real. Why it is and what remains of a spirit etc, that I am not sure of. I don't dismiss ghosts but I have to wonder just how real they are and what exactly they are. As for demons, I don't really believe in those as I've never seen any proof to their existences at all. Most ghosts don't seem to be harmful any way so I don't worry about them.
I'd probably go with instinct and at least be wary of her. Usually if you have a bad feeling about someone it's a sign that you should watch yourself. There are many boys and girls that don't get boyfriends/girlfriends in school right away. You aren't that alone in that. Having said that, this guy may like you if he treats you different from other girls by hugging you and such, especially if he has a girlfriend and is doing it to you but not to others. He may be testing out the field because he may be getting bored with his girlfriend and find you interesting. In the end you really have one of two choices which is to ask him why he hugs you and not other girls, or to just ignore it but if he pushes further to tell him that he has a girlfriend and that you won't play the middle ground. If he decides to drop her then, it's his choice but don't let yourself get caught as the girl stuck between two people if you can help it. You'd be blamed for their whole relationship falling apart and if he isn't happy with her he needs to do the right thing. He could just be hugging you because he thinks you are special and like a sister, but you'll either have to ask him to be sure where your position is with him or just put it in your head it's that way until he shows some other sign. I wish you luck and hope you'll be alright with whatever you find out. I'm sorry to hear you are depressed. I hope you feel better and whatever is wrong you can sort through it. If you want to tell us, feel free to, but if not, you have some support here as much as we can give. Well, how bad was this secret? Kids at school can be rotten and overdo things, trying to forcibly embarrass and humiliate others. It's the way school is at times. Whether it's really bad or not though, you've got to hold yourself up high. It's a part of your life and we all do shameful or embarrassing things. Accepting those and not letting others take a fact of our lives to twist to their benefit to hurt us is a big part of growing up. Breaking up sucks, but I can see why you did it. Does he talk to you at all now or seem to want to get back together? Sometimes people let things slip they shouldn't. If he did it to hurt you, that is not right and since I'm not sure which it is and where his heart lies in the situation it's difficult to say what to do about him. I do hope things get better for you but tough it out and take it as a learning experience if you can. Sooner or later those kids will forget about this if you don't make that big of a deal, keep with your friends and explain things.
Well, we'll probably be hearing from you when you get suspended!
Hmm...someone who is funny, witty, cognitive, truthful and out front, compassionate, adventurous and spontaneous but also doesn't mind being lazy with me too and well, takes care of herself and has at least a decent self-esteem.
No way. I'm totally down with this. I got it. *snickers*
I gotta be that. Totally.
That's right darn it! I'm a freaking shark! A SHARK! Get out of the water!! ..or hop in because you want to feed the shark. I wonder if I have a laser.
I WIN????? What do I get????
Meh, that sucks. Hope to see you back soon. *ponders repping* *hides under rock instead*
That's exactly why I said it. Some people seem upset they were missing from people's lists here. Yeah, maybe it wasn't the best analogy comparison though. However, I really liked the movie and documentary as I just had finished watching it for a second time like a week ago, so it was fresh on the mind. It always makes me sniffle.
I didn't make the list. I am full of fail! Hooray!
It's not Mckechnie as in Mc-kech-nee-yeh? Hmm, how about Mc-kek-nee? or Mc-kech-nee? One of those!
Harvey looked around at the scene and hoped Pika was now alright. "So um...how about that ruling now, Your Honor?" He kept an eye on Pika in case he needed to grab him or something so that Mr. Power wouldn't do anything out of the ordinary. Yen Sid frowned notably. "That is an unanticipated event." He was sure he had done his part correctly in casting the spell. Whatever was up now was something beyond his control but he was prepared to freeze him with a Stop spell if needed until things could be sorted out.
Kairi lost her Heart when the Door was opened at Destiny Islands, where it went to Sora and remained throughout the game. She however, gains Namine as a Nobody when the Dark Keyblade was used by Sora to release the Heart of Kairi and also the Princesses' Hearts which went back to their bodies. Sora's Heart was also taken at that time. This is when Roxas and Namine were created which is found in the Ansem Reports in KH2.
Yes, he meant that Repliku's life basically was as a creation of Vexen right there at the Castle and it was brief but full of tragic events all there. The only good thing out of it was Sora and then his death which he accepted. Otherwise, he really did have a rather miserable time for his short life of maybe a day or two.
My point is how do people feel so sorry for the Org that boned themselves but not a guy who had good intentions that lost his world, his life, his name, etc and was exiled and screwed over? The Org were in no way more innocent than he was. Roxas, sure, he got screwed but did he have to go back to Sora any way? Yes. Would he have naturally when he left to research the 'dreams' he was having? Very likely. Sure, it would have been more harmonious, just as Namine's was with Kairi, because Namine figured it out, but all DiZ did was move something along faster to get Sora back whole because he figured he needed him. When Riku kind of squashed his plans, to include not getting rid of Namine, or letting her do more for the plan and taking off himself with relics from Roxas's life, well that messed up his plans any way. He realized it was folly. He was emo, but at least he had real reasons to be. Having your whole identity stolen, yourself lost, your home lost and all those things taken like the people etc and being betrayed by your trusted apprentices who actually convinced you for a while to continue etc when you had debates about it even before ordering it to be stopped... I mean really...why do people feel more sorry for the people that betrayed him than him? In my mind I think the Org and DiZ were both owed some sympathy for their conditions of existence.
I agree. I keep hoping secret Org member #14 is Aqua or someone and Riku will meet her and they can be gf/bf. He deserves someone too, totally. I just think in the end it would be nice if at least the 3 'major' characters could get used in the game. Riku and Kairi should have something to do more and it would be nice to see Kairi be capable of more than being the token kidnappable female every time.
It doesn't make what he did right, but it makes it more understandable and Roxas didn't have nearly as much happen to him as Ansem did. Ansem had a reason to be mad and upset. He was wrong but note that Riku did curb him at times and do his own thing and Ansem could have tried to stop him too more than he did before Riku took off. What he did to Roxas was not nearly on par with what Xemnas/Xehanort and the others did to him. Also, yes, I believe Ansem/DiZ is pretty gone as he gave his life for what he did. He probably didn't feel after all the failures and hatred etc that there was anything left to do in his life. He is probably toast and not coming back. However, the Org did not spare him. I'm sorry but they ran off and he tried to stop it and had to go to Darkness himself. They could not just endure Darkness either as Ansem/DiZ pointed out when he gave Riku the cloak. It could have consumed them if they didn't wear the cloaks. He also learned to hide and do things himself. They weren't merciful to him in any way so I don't see where you are coming up with that at all.
Terrific! I'm a shark! *plays Jaws theme*
