OOC: Somehow, we just aren't trying to connect here and comprehend one another. Try to bear with me here. I also keep trying to write this short and I suck at that so if it's lengthy again, rawr. I tried. This court case to me would seem to be 'The Worlds and Victims vs the Organization XIII." This would mean that the Offense is there to try the Organization based on what things they did to the worlds and individuals that were victimized by them. The Defense is representing the Organization itself and their plight to get their Hearts back and soften the blow and discount any lies or points of views that would not count as facts. In most court cases the Offense are the hard ball players and the Defense doesn't just go on the attack of every single witness that comes up, especially flat out calling them liars etc without superb proof because it could cost them to be held in contempt and tossed out on their ears. If you want realism, this court case is not that way, though in some ways we do come pretty close, considering the characters we are all dealing with here from a fictional world with extraordinary circumstances. This to me though would mean that Axel vs Saix could not be brought up since both were considered members of the Organization and also how would the 'worlds and victims not of the Org' be affected in any way? Also, Axel wasn't actually murdered by Saix. The same holds true with the fight between Axel and Marluxia or Axel offing Vexen. However, we run into problems with say Axel vs Zexion because he used Repliku to off him who is a victim. We also run into problems with how Namine was used at the Castle, and the attacks on Sora and friends as well as Riku in his part of the game because these are all people the Offense must prove were affected and the Defense must prove the scene wasn't so dire etc. Now, taking this into account, the novels are written in points of view of character opinions in quite a few spots. This can be helpful for players to get more IC but it doesn't really help with some evidences which you have to play the game to see more. There are some discrepancies in the novels from the games that I have seen but you may be right and they are failures at translating, or it could be that the novelist took some liberties that should not have been done. Either way, all I am saying is that if something can be seen in the video game quite clearly as evident, we don't really -need- the novels to make it clearer. I.e. can we all not discern that in the game, Phil ran after Demyx, was unarmed, was obviously hit in some aggressive manner to force him to the ground in a state of unconsciousness and Sora and party found him as he was reviving? If this is true, why are we even dragging the novels into this when the scene is cut and dry? It isn't needed. There was some confusion early on that was addressed as to whether Phil was attacked once or twice because Pika thought it was Phil that went to get the stone and it was Hercules who actually did it. This was repaired by going through the script etc so really, I don't see even why this is an argument anymore. The novels don't have to be dragged out when the game is the proof in itself. I do like the novels, but when it comes to anything that is contradicting the actual game, we should remember that Nomura did not write a game from a novel, but gave permission for someone to write a novel from the game and even let the person write in character points of view which may be true to that character but doesn't necessarily validate the scene itself from other characters' points of view either. Therefore it makes sense to use the game as the deciding factor when it comes to evidence and attacks, damages etc and the novel can be used for points of view or some extra tidbits not seen in KH2 or KH2:FM+ or CoM. That's all I am saying. Perhaps I did get kind of harsh but that was only after it keeps being brought up again and again and you were rather vocal yourself. I think from now on perhaps we should instead of doing it IC to make ourselves be perceived wrong, perhaps we should declare OOC that the novel contradicts a person's testimony, whereas if the -game- does, it can be done IC because that should be also seen as flawed in the novel, and where it does with the link to the translation and then also check the game and just make the call swiftly. If though you realize the novel scene is different from the video game's, then the question shouldn't even arise as we should take the video game as the true story, because as I said, the novels are based on the games and not the other way around. As far as KH2:FM+ goes, I see no problem with inserting the scenes from it since also they turn up in the novels any way and it lets us keep to the story arc more accurately. So: KH2 - let's use it CoM - that too KH2:FM - why not RE:CoM - there were only a couple differences really so I don't see why not. It's overall the same game but for those little spots. Novels - most of the time they are fine unless contradicting directly a game scene. Points of view cannot be used as evidence, which would happen to be removed any way. Manga - no never ever ever ever ever. That work?
oOooh vengeance. *snicker* What was your happiest moment you can recall? Where do the deer and the antelope play? What is your favorite animal? What do you think of me? What color hair do you have? What is your most outstanding feature in appearance? What is your favorite school subject? What is your favorite ice cream flavor? What kind of clothes do you like to wear? Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego right now? If you had to choose one place to live for the rest of your life, where would it be? Where is your dream vacation at? What is your favorite number? What creature do you most fear? Do you have piercings? Any tattoos? What would you like to do as a career choice? Do your parents drive you bonkers? What is the color of summer? What is your favorite vegetable? Who made you do it? What is your favorite gem stone? Why am I asking you so many questions? If there was one person you could meet in person from here, who would it be? What is your favorite movie? Your favorite book? Do you prefer sneakers or sandals? Have you ever ridden on a motorcycle? Have you ever given someone a terrorist fist jab? What is your favorite hair color on a guy? What is the worst quality a friend of yours has? Do you have any siblings? If so, have you ever gotten into a good brawl with any of them? Is your room neat or messy or 'lived in'? Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost over night? Can you do the Monster Mash? Paper or plastic? Do you think sporks are just dandy? Who is your favorite anime character? What is your favorite video game? What is your favorite anime hair color on characters? Do you think Kairi is a Mary Sue? Pens or pencils? Will you hate me after you see how many questions I wrote for you? What is your favorite home cooked meal? Is Magneto a villain or just misunderstood? Should I fill out this paperwork that is due in 3 days or let it sit around longer? Have you ever dropped your lunch tray at school? What is your favorite beverage? What is the silliest scolding you've ever gotten from a parent? What is your favorite breakfast cereal? Mexican food or Chinese food? Do you like curry? What is the ugliest color you can think of? Part 1 finished. whee!
The maid must be calling a helluva lot of people! She must keep that place real clean.
lol, that was hilarious. Now I'm going to 'get back to work'.
OOC: Until Nomura declares the novels as being more canon than the actual game we should take the game facts themselves above the novels when they contradict. The novels are of course much better than the manga and in some areas can be taken into account but when it goes against the game, the game should be held superior. That is all I am saying. Really I don't see why you are arguing the point and as said, you cannot prove that Japanese people who are 'roleplaying' out such an RPG as this would not caught in the same dilemma. Whether Phil was knocked out or conked on the head or whatever, in the game he is ON THE GROUND (and no I'm not mad when I am capitalizing here, but just trying to point this out) when Sora and team find him and therefore 'aggravated assault' or 'assault' charges would apply and nothing harsher could. There is obviously no intent to murder seen there regardless of whether you look at the novels or the game. It's clear Demyx did not intend to have him killed and obviously Phil could not defend himself and was unarmed from the attack as he was found on the ground when the group got there. So really, I'm confused why this is such a big deal since you also agree that the charge would end up being Assault. Also, you agree that Saix and Axel fighting should not be chargeable. So really, there's no need to argue the point really as in the end I think -most- of us any way know that Demyx can really only be feasibly charged with assault on Sora/Donald/Goofy and assault on Phil, as well as theft. It could be pushed that he be charged with a second count of Assault on Sora/Donald/Goofy by proxy because of the Nobodies but that would be the Judge's decision to decide if he's guilty or not and there absolutely just is nothing else that could have hopes of sticking. Demyx just wasn't an Org member with a lot of things he did wrong. I'm not dissing the novels, ok? I -do- take into account translations aren't perfect, even though I have been enjoying the translations I see so far. I just feel that extra punishments or bonuses should not be warranted because they aren't in the games or scenes like Phil etc are not what was in the game itself. Seriously, sometimes I think this all gets taken too seriously and I'm actually a person that is pretty neutral on my stances when it comes to the Org and Sora etc. The only reason I argued with ICSP in the first place was that it was declaring whether 'Sora' was justified or not and in the end though I feel sympathy towards the Org, I can also feel sympathy towards Sora and team and the way they were treated. I'm not some fanboy that thinks the Org should be punished more than they already were. Hence why I try to think IC as the characters and am not provoking a -war- about it and you can tell by Sora's own testimony here versus Demyx that he is not out to attach extra crimes to him. Sora to me seems the sort that would rather talk things out and if things can be resolved, to forgive and move on and do the 'right' thing. However, some of you feel different and paint him as a mass murderer. At the same time I feel understanding towards Org characters too and can feel bad for some of them but it doesn't mean their testimonies won't cause reactions in the characters and heck, I may change my mind on a couple I think were rotten jerks. Running Sora in this RPG is like a death wish in here and I took the character not to prove the Org's guilt but to run the character as I felt he would be ran and I've been getting challenge after challenge for it, trying to call Sora a liar repeatedly when I doggedly go through the scripts and scenes and even have replayed sections of the game through to ensure I'm getting it as correct as possible. I had voiced it before pertaining to other characters here being called OOC etc and am saying it now for Sora. There is no reason for people to be doing this and we should be having fun, right? Sorry for the long vent here but it is something that is bothering me that people keep attacking others over this stuff and we could be more cordial and treat each other with respect because hopefully none of us OOCly are just fanboys/girls out to make the characters into something they are not. We've all been writing strong paragraphs etc and this RP has been well constructed. Let's get off each other's backs, please. If I offended people, I apologize. It just gets to be no fun when I'm constantly getting attacked for stuff when I actually do the research and I'm sure others here do to and I think we all deserve some praise for that and trying to 'keep it real'. "Sleep talking?" Riku chuckled. "I'm not sure what you mean really. Sora, Donald and Goofy jumped down after disobeying King Mickey's order because they wanted to help against the Heartless and Nobodies. The other people were fighting and he wanted to stay and do something. On the clearing there, whether Sora and the group jumped down or ran the other way, they still had to confront Demyx to get to the 1000 Heartless battle so I'm not seeing how they could go another way. Even when King Mickey catches up to them and after Goofy gets hit in the head, they still keep going down together so there's no way they could have left and gotten around Demyx another way in order to get to the Heartless."
haha, nice pic. Should make a video with it and other pics, telling some demented story now.
OOC: Wrong, the novels are NOT canon and nothing says they are absolute canon. They are especially not canon if the novels differ from the actual GAME. Nomura has -never- said the novels or manga are canon and just because one is written better than the other does not make it so. The game should always be first. Also, how do you know in Japan no one is complaining about the novels and having this very same problem in an RPG where a case is going on that must take evidence from sources to prove someone's innocence or guilt? You can't answer that. I'm sorry. In the end, if it's going to be a problem like this, the novel should just be banned as providing any evidence at all because the game takes precedence and why should we all have to keep referring back to the novel too when we've already found a few sections that contradict directly the video game? That alone is reason to say that only 'opinions of characters' should be used for any statements characters make in testimony etc. All other evidence such as fights happening outside the games etc should not be permitted -at all-. You find me something that says Nomura declares the novels as canon utterly and you win. Otherwise, to settle this once and for all, let's just dump the novel out for anything above character feelings at certain scenes, PLEASE. We should not be, on either side of the fence here, using the novels as ways to get people out of charges or get them more charges. Really, this is getting ridiculous. "Considering where Sora was headed, there was only one path down that way and Demyx was standing in it. Why? He could have gone back the way he came but that really wouldn't make much sense."
She's alright. Her music has somewhat improved but she really needs to get her life fixed up. Whether KFed was a moron or not, which it seems he was when he was spending a ton of her money on partying etc and she finally snapped, she has two kids and needs to act better than this at least for them. I think she's gotten slammed pretty hard for some things that if her life wasn't in the public eye it wouldn't matter so much but yeah, she needs to get her act straightened up, if not for us so we can hear her music and watch smexy videos again, for her kids.
No Staff! It's party time. Whoo hoo!
OOC: Sorry I didn't post for a few days and so you guys were stuck waiting on Sora. It figures though. Maybe he was thinking reaaaaaaaaaaaaally hard. I lost the internet when I payed off one bill and realized oops, I didn't have enough to pay the cable bill till this pay day after that. Go fig. Also, I'd say we should not have the Axel vs Saix thing count really because there's no point. Their feud was in the confines of the Org and harmed no one but themselves. It's about as relevant as charging Sora or Demyx for their 2nd fight which both did free of will or charging Axel for fighting Marluxia, in straight up combat. It's even less relevant because it happens in the novel and not the actual game. Riku looked at Namine. "I think that answers the question of what else is next. Not much. I'm sure now we'll soon get to hear Demyx's side, which should be interesting. If he wasn't in the Organization...I bet he'd have been kind of fun to hang around and go to parties with."
Oh, I personally agree with you and if I were going to adopt a kid, the color of a child's skin is not my concern at all. However, some parents do want to have a child that matches their ethnicity and also shares some appearance traits similar to them so they don't have to say 'the kid is adopted' to everyone etc. It is a personal choice so I do think people should know...of course, I don't think I would adopt a kid without actually seeing the child first to know if I felt compatible with it, so again, to me this question is somewhat confusing.
Do as Neku suggested. CTRL+ESC always is going to bring up your Start Menu. If that for some reason does not work, try the Windows Key. Next, go to Control Panel -> Taskbar and Start Menu -> Then, undo the 'lock task bar' and hit ok...leave that and go to the bottom of your screen with your mouse and drag it up to where you want it and then go back to the same section and check the box with lock the taskbar and you should be good to go.
I'd say no because then I'd have to (along with countless other people that just collect knives and weapons) get rid of my knife and sword collection or go pay money to the government to own somethings every year or 5 or whatever and well, that to me just seems to be BS. Also, who is going to be eligible for this license? What age does a person have to be? I used to sit outside at age 8 and learned to carve wood with a knife from my grandfather. So if I wanted to teach my kid someday I'd have to go get him or her a license? It just seems way too extreme an act.
Language and words are expressive and help people get things across to one another. Certainly, someone who can wield words well and construct sentences that are motivational can be inspiring. Also, words can be put into poems or song lyrics that can help make a person feel reactive emotions to them. However, words alone aren't enough to topple kingdoms, create empires, etc. It takes a -strong person- who uses those words and does actions to make the words an actual reality. People can talk forever about how they don't like a leader, want peace with some neighboring country or whatever and make it sound good but until people put their money where their mouth is, it doesn't mean a thing.
I would call myself an Atheist. Since I do not believe in God, it is very hard to have a war with something that just isn't there to me. Heretic is a word made up by religious people to make them believe Atheists are out to get them and really, even if God existed, how the heck is an Atheist going to hurt him? Maybe with a +8 holy avenger vorpal sword of doom or something? (had to toss in a D&D thing.) I'm not against God. What I'm against are the people that use God as an excuse to do rotten deeds to other people or nature.
Nope, it's not the right section but I will go ahead and move it for you to the Tech section and perhaps someone will help you out there.
I would imagine that people just invented them as labels. There's also red and yellow you can toss in there too. It's just skin colors, though of course they aren't accurate and it would be more accurate to say pale complexion, bronzed/tanned skin, deep brown..whatever, as if someone is writing a novel or something for descriptions. However, the color of skin also became an identifier with ethnicity. In the end, to me there is absolutely no such thing as race excluding the human race, or rather human species. Also, I don't usually hear of 'Americans' being called 'whites'. If an American is of African descent..he or she would be still called black. I am half Apache and so have semi-darker skin than the average tanned Caucasian person and have never been called 'white'. One thing I can say that I am glad to see go was the word 'colored' for dark skinned people. *shiver* It was so inaccurate, it is far worse than 'black'. The only reasons these 'color' terms stick around are simply for classing people into racial profiles for descriptions and well that's what we have to work with unless we choose to not use them at all. I've heard dark skinned people regardless of ethnicity get called the 'n' word, which I kind of find amusing. What's more fun is when you call the person back the 'n' word and tell them to F off. Anyone that still uses that word in a serious racial slur tone way really needs to just be drawn and quartered.
If you mean that they should not report a child's appearance or ethnicity to people adopting...I'd say that they should have to report such so the parents know and can inform the kid as he/she grows older etc. As for if you mean should anyone of any ethnicity be able to adopt anyone of another ethnicity, I believe the answer to that should be yes. As far as I know, this is possible anyway and should be just fine to do. You may though want to clarify the question a bit more so we can be sure what you are actually asking.
