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I'd never do that. ICSP is one of my greatest competitors and I need some sport while writing KH-Vids Death Notes. There'd be no challenge if I took him out. :(

OOC: The Keyblade is not what makes Sora and his opponent stuck in battle. It's been seen a few times that it is the opponents that do it. Also, the Keyblade isn't going to nudge Sora to do that. We can clearly see when opponents in the games set up the fields so that's a no-go. The bosses want to trap Sora. Not the other way around. And why would the Keyblade want to make the situation as it was? That makes no real sense. He calls it to the battle there. Had it appeared in his hand and he was like 'wtf' sure, I could buy it but no, he brings it as Demyx brings his sitar out willingly.

Having said that, Demyx really didn't make a show of making a 'barrier' so that's why I'm trying to fix things, because if you do lose, you have to do it all over again, so in the end, some reason to explain it makes more sense than just saying 'Sora felt he had to' which makes no sense. The time limit was there and obviously Sora -had- to do it. So a simple reasoning of the creatures were there to attack Sora to get his 'true disposition' is the most logical way to fix the dilemma without having to insert the other things. I have -no- idea why it is so hard to do this.

OOC: The point still comes down to Sora has to repeat the stupid event if he loses and has to keep trying to win it so it seems reasonable to say that it was a -necessary- thing for Sora to have to do. It isn't like he had a choice in the matter. All I was asking for to solve the problem so the 'shield' could be taken out and the time limit factor be eliminated but that there was a -reason- to bother with it. It fixes the game mechanics issue altogether but it seems that it is wanted to cover for Demyx that Sora 'FEELS' that he has to do it and that's just BS. In this case, it doesn't change the fact Demyx would get an assault charge but really it fixes the issue of game mechanics and I don't see why I get crapped on for fixing something and get a tude and repeat blah blah about how it was unimportant and yet Sora -had- to do it. This gives a -reason-.

Also, I was not being mean in stating that Hercules had to go get the stone yadda yadda. I was stating it because it is part of the story and so Demyx would obviously have known he -stole- it and others did know he took it and had accomplices. It wasn't to be an ass and I wasn't upset. I was just stating it as the question was raised. I apologize there if I came off wrong there but answering a question shouldn't be taken so personally. I'm not sure how I keep getting taken wrong here but jeez, if you can't even work out and compromise a situation so it makes sense because it supports a cause IC that shouldn't be a cause since nothing changes other than correcting the game mechanics to mean something more 'real', I just am at a loss.

OOC: Well if you don't want to compromise, then we should use the game rules which state that he had an amount of time to defeat them or go KO'd. Since that is the -reality- of the game. I'm not going to argue it anymore with you. If there is no way to resolve it why should we give in to your way of saying something when it ultimately goes against the game? I suppose it will just be something that will be glossed over since there is no peaceful way to settle it. You can go over the scene as much as you want and make it to your favor but in the end, the game states what it does. I was trying to make a situation where both could be happy but every time it seems there's always a wall there which seems to favor one side or the other. The way I stated it would have been fine for both sides and moved stuff along. But oh well. It gets rather frustrating but we'll just gloss over it because in the end, I don't think it right the story gets mangled to fit purposes IC. You can go with it's one way and we'll go with the other and let it stand. It just won't matter much in the end judgment either way. Both can be considered truths from a point of view. Done.

Also, I was calm until this post. You were rude and really I'm about ready to drop out of this because I don't need to be told to 'chill' by someone who isn't willing to work things out. Kthx.

Actually, it's a post card that was in Frisky Dingo. I just love the grammar error and the saying amuses me.

Being bored can happen during any season. Most of the time for me winter is boring because I can't get out and do fun stuff and it's just school and work. However, to make things happen, I try to do some fun things such as talk to friends or at least associate with people online. In summer you can do more so go out and try to pick up an activity. When I am bored, sometimes I go rollerblading or just go out driving and wandering around at state parks or something. Even drawing or listening to music, doing some craft project etc is something to do. Boredom really is a state of mind and so you have to think of something to fill the time that nothing is going on with those around you. Try to do something simple and constructive and it will make the time go by easier. Good luck in getting rid of the boredom blues.

Welcome to you're Doom!

I'm 6'1. It's cool to see the varying heights of people. lol

I doubt Israel would make such a move considering that if they did we would ultimately be facing WW III. Israel is seen as anti-Muslim strongly because of past prime ministers that could also be looked at as war mongers. Just as much as many Islamic people disdain Israel, there are a fair amount of Israelis that are against them and the Palestinian/Israel conflict is one with crimes on both sides, whether people like to admit it or not. To cause a war with Iran, attacking them would be taken in utter outrage and then everyone would have to get involved in the mess because it would cause a stupid holy war of epic proportions.

In the end, Israel would be smarter to just defend itself and work out fixing its own problems than doing such a hasty maneuver and if we (the U.S.) backed such a stupid maneuver, I would be extremely disappointed. Israel has received many things from Europe and the U.S. to defend itself and some of it has been used very poorly. This isn't to say I'm anti-Semetic, but I do see the pain on both sides of the conflicts in the Middle East and no one can really claim to have clean blood free hands when it comes to the region. Despotic warlords are there because it can be gotten away with and have actually received help. The culture over there is different than what Americans, Canadians and Europeans are used to, which is a reason why so many Muslims flee the territory in the first place.

Any acts though by Israel in a direct assault fashion just would in simple be the dumbest thing Israel could do and it's bad enough that we moved into Iraq without enough provocation and without finishing the work in Afghanistan. We don't need anymore trouble and I think a lot of Americans would actually be furious if Israel went and did anything; especially should a President clear it.

One thing I find amusing is that Richard Cheney's shortened name is also censored here. He's such an ass. lol.

OOC: *sigh* There should be no 'in his mind' he felt he had to face something that was what you make out to be 'nothing' yet players HAD to do because of a time limit. I'm sorry. Why should it be assumed Sora didn't have to do something when in the game he absolutely did or you lose the game? The compromise of saying the creatures attacked does work because otherwise the game mechanic should count. There's no reason that 'something' shouldn't apply that made Sora have to bother to stay and fight the water clones if they did nothing unless you attacked them. If we take out the time limit and shield, fine, but not without some compromise here to make it clear that there was a reason. The very fact you lose the game is enough to say that something needs to go there. This way we just remove the parts pertaining to any 'shield' questions', being 'stuck', and 'time limit' issues, etc and yet it shows a way to make it probable otherwise.

Also, Hercules went off to ask the gods to borrow the Olympus Stone so it obviously was under some guard. They also knew who took it. How would they know if no one -saw- anything? It's clear Demyx stole it and had to know he did for his purpose.

Also, it is -assumed- each character is under some type of Oath or else why bother to have them testify if they can and will lie? Perjury would exist. Of course, in the case of Demyx here he's tip toeing the edge so perjury isn't quite a 'solid' issue and could be scrutinized without further proof.

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Harvey whispered to Pika. "Man, stop riding the 'Nobodies have no emotions' card because they still have reactions to former emotions. Demyx was full of reactions and that's why he was so confusing. Also, I'd amplify the point of asking if he had 'control' of his Dusks that were with him. Did he order them to stop him or what? Demyx is trying to discount himself from the crimes by saying he didn't know he was stealing and the Dusks did things wrong. Did he discipline the Dusks...anything? So in the end you have things you can work with on the charges themselves and his reactions." He sipped his water and looked over at Xelax who was mimicking him and sputtered out a laugh to himself. That was highly amusing. "The more you use the 'Nobodies have no Hearts' thing, the more the others use it against you, so just keep in mind they have reactions to former life emotions and you'll be fine. Also amplify on the fact that he was sent to go after Sora and ask if that's his only purpose there in the Underworld."

OOC: My solution would fix it saying that he had to fight them because they did do damage rather than taking the time limit into effect as it is a game mechanic. Also, some game mechanics may have to be analyzed as they come up. The time limit thing was a competitive thing for the player, so we remove that and it's fine but there's no reason Sora -had- to face the battle if the water things weren't going to do anything. He was unarmed through the whole conversation so that doesn't make sense to just throw it off on Sora that he jumped in to kick butt when he had little reason to there. Also, I'm not saying for the 2nd battle to count that there was a 'barrier' there though there was technically. Which is why instead I had Sora say he had to go past Demyx there to get to the Heartless, because that was his destination after all and a more viable reason why he couldn't just turn back. Some things we can mold to testimony when it comes into debate like this. It makes sense in the first battle to say he was attacked because otherwise the point of the water spirits was lame and we simply could have skipped the scene were it not for the timing count. It was already established any way that Sora would not go and 'die' the first fight but go KO'd possibly if he did nothing. It makes sense because otherwise the efforts of Demyx under orders was for nothing as well.

Also, Pika, feel free to go ahead with the cross-examination. I am working on Axel's stuff anywhoo cuz I don't expect Demyx to last too long.

Evangelical Protestant Christianity. The movement has irritated me since a lot of problems have stemmed from it to include abuse of children, education rights, Bush being one and saying Atheists should not be considered citizens of America, Ted Haggard saying he cured himself to being straight and all the money people sink into the fanatical movement that is really just baffling to me. The religious movement seems to hate anyone including other Christian groups and just ticks me off to no end. My apologies to anyone who might be evangelical but the leaders of it are so corrupt and the hatred of gays, anyone not Christian and even Christian groups has just turned me off of them and I hate having to hear how their 'vote' in the elections matters.

Really, if porn was charged I would find that amusing and not really care. It's the other stuff I'd be mad at being charged for such as using youtube, wikipedia, tv station websites, news sites, personal sites, chat spots etc. Porn charges any way and in the last few years it's gone down in percentage of how much it hogs the internet.

Still, what you said is an opinion in entirety, and since people who are adamantly gay, straight or asexual would disagree with you, I'd prefer to go by the accounts of their feelings on the matter and not someone who says all people are bisexual but has no proof towards such a thing. You don't even need experiments to know the answer is false. You can talk to people and they will tell you straight out that they are of a sexual orientation and other sexual tendencies are gross to them. The grossness factor is one of the reasons that people have a hard time accepting gays in the first place and it's why Christianity has used it as a tool to say it is a 'sin'. The thoughts it was 'wrong' came from somewhere and this would be the culprit. We all just aren't made the same and that's easier to accept than a deception used to accept gays, straights, bisexuals or asexuals. If you can't accept them as they are and make up something to fit, that's not helping the cause.

OOC: Actually it's declared the Olympus Stone was held by the gods and Hercules had to go to them to get it so it's not like it was just hanging out. lol. The gods even identified who took it which was a man in a black cloak and he had accomplice Nobodies. So it's not like it wasn't guarded to any effect.

As for game play, I agree with you that it should be amended somehow in this but not entirely just 'removed' because it's one of the things that makes both Sora's and Demyx's testimonies flawed to the actual game. Either one attacked for no reason and yet in the game he -had- to or he dies, or the other one just tossed out harmless creatures that didn't do anything until you struck them and Sora could have walked off, which if the player had a choice, he may have thought of doing it because the option was there. So it just complicates things. The solution, I'd say the water creatures attacked because you are also arguing mechanics if you try to say that they just stood around and Sora would just do nothing and they'd do nothing. There has to be something to make up for the reason that Sora -had- to attack them other than the time limit, so can we just agree to say that they DID attack since I can't prove it as one ran into Sora when I left him standing there and did damage to him and I did nothing. It doesn't make much sense to put the time limit in as you are right, it's a player competition thing, but at the same time, dismissing they do -anything- is being used against Sora to say he had no reason to do crap, which obviously he did. So a compromise here?

I'm definitely not going to argue the 'barrier' deal but there -should- be a reason Sora was forced to the fight seeing as the time limit factor -was- involved. So this would fix it up and still be 'liberating his true disposition' while time is eliminated from the picture and doesn't make the charge worse in any way.

Gwen Stefani would get a Death Note because she murders the word 'Kawaii' in her songs. She inspired many people to say it wrong despite the fact in one of her songs the Harajuku Girls say it right for her. Sad.

I'm such a bipolar Light. lol
Don't mess with me. I'm also Edgeworth. Light Edgeworth. If I didn't like my user name here so much I'd change my nick to that.

As Fayt said, he has no Nobody. There is a topic on this in the KH2 thread if you want to use the Search function to find it. It's well explained in there. Riku never lost his heart to Darkness. He fell to Darkness as in gave into it but his spirit was strong enough to resist being 'consumed' by it and he endured in Darkness even without his body, maintaining a link to it as Xehanort's Heartless (Ansem) was parading around in his body. He remained in Darkness and helped seal the door to keep Xehanort's Heartless there in Darkness after Sora defeated him. Later, he goes to Castle Oblivion and fights to keep his body and defeats Xehanort's Heartless. So Riku never lost his Heart at all through the series and has no Nobody.

I did repeat the fight with him a few times. Two times I did it for friends so they could get Fenrir since they couldn't get past him. The other time I repeated it was for me at level 38 since I was determined to beat him at the lowest level I could which took a while. The first time I had beaten him I was at level 99 because I wanted to be prepared but though it was a challenge, it wasn't quite so difficult as KH Sephiroth.