As I said, I try to answer as many as I can and I read through your previous response several times and believe I got all of them. Point out ones that I have missed and I will gladly attempt to rebuke them. Condoms are not "extremely unreliable". A simple search brings up that if used properly there is only a 2% risk of pregnancy, and that is not taking into account other contraceptive measures. Normal use is stated at between 10 and 18%, which I would hardly call "extremely unreliable". But yes, abstinence is certainly the foolproof way of avoiding pregnancy but that is hardly a viable option. You seem to have very little faith in men. Plenty of men stay when they get a woman pregnant, the media only concentrates on the negative. And as for women being "weaker" than men, I hope for your sake that there are no feminists reading your post. Women can certainly have more willpower than men and they certainly have a higher pain threshold (with giving birth and all that). Don't discard women as being weak and unable to throw off a mans advances, and don't assume that men force sex on women and get violent when they don't get their way. You are taking my arguments to their extremes in an attempt to disprove them. There is no such thing as a perfect system. STDs could still continue to spread even if prostitution was allowed to become socially acceptable, only a moron would think otherwise. But spreading caused by prostitution would be drastically cut down by health checks and screening. You are denying this? The point is, the Bible is said to be the word of god, meaning that it is all the truth and should be lived by. You cannot pick and choose if you are to call yourself Christian. You wouldn't be following gods word then, would you? (P.S. There is also a helpful comparison table here as to the effectiveness of different contraceptive measures. Of course, most of these are considered individually when in reality they would be used in conjunction with each other.)
You say you gave other reasons, my point was that I took these reasons and showed how these were flawed. Sex does not always produce children. Children are only produced if the proper procedures are not followed. A prostitute would certainly be on the pill, possibly have the implant, IUDs, condoms etc. There is plenty of contraception out there, all it takes is government legislation making contraception mandatory for prostitutes and those who make use of their services. I also like the way you are so incredibly sexist. You seem to assume that all prostitutes are woman and that they have it to rough because men treat them like dirt etc etc. There are male prostitutes too, with different sets of problems. And I'm sure most men treat prostitutes well, otherwise it would be much more prominent on the news. It is also very certain to be true that the image prostitutes have (after being demonised by society, mainly [or almost exclusively] because of the church) is because of the "back street" nature of their profession. It is seen as dirty and "in an alleyway" kind of thing, all because it is shunned by society. Hence, society is causing a lot of the problems you state about prostitution, simply by treating it the way it does. The reason I dropped that line of argument (which is perfectly valid) is because I seem to be unable to convey its message to you. I don't know what the reason behind that is, possibly because you don't want to listen but I wouldn't want to make assumptions as to the reason. xD You just proved how ridiculous it is. If it was only valid 5000 years ago, why should it even be considered to apply now? We are much more "enlightened" (I use the word loosely) and understand things a lot more. Better perspective, better insight and generally less ignorant. This meaning that what may have been socially acceptable back then is almost certainly completely different now. Way to defeat your own argument. I do not ignore peoples points (at least not on purpose). I rebuked all of your arguments with my own reasons and it is you who ignored these rebukes. Also @ Gamerben21: Have you actually read anything that has been said in this thread? STDs would be effectively halted if it was legalised. Mandatory government health checks would mean that any infected prostitutes or clients would be screened out and hopefully offered treatment. It could even potentially save governments billions every year in the reduction of cases of STDs, as well as thousands of lives.
What I meant was that we hold ourselves as high and might over other creatures when there is only a fine line separating us. I see I am getting nowhere with this line of argument so I am dropping it. Laws are often dictated by morals. They are at the very least linked. No, it is considered wrong because way back when a group of people decided to make it wrong. They had no evidence or reason apart from a book of dodgy authorship. Also, the only reason people are hurt is because it is currently ILLEGAL. No government regulation means they have to fend for themselves. They are not protected in any way and are forced to move to communities which are already "damaged". Other than "because god said so" what else can you come up with? Basing your entire argument on the assumption of a beings existence ain't very sturdy. I never said all religious teachings, I meant the one's referring to law. Most of the Old Testament is ignored or treated as "metaphorical" (hah, an excuse for selective interpretation) just because it is so ridiculous. As I have said before, relying on assumptions for your so-called moral standing is not the way to go. Telling a lie can be evil, although it does all depend on what you consider to be evil. Morals going too far is when people see a list of morals and follow them blindly, strictly adhering to each and every one of them without stopping to think about the morals. Think "why is this a moral/immoral thing to do?". This obviously hasn't happened for a while as it would require too much effort. Religion has a way of ingraining such ways of thinking into societies so they are very hard to extract.
What I am saying is, humans are very prone to being arrogant. We are all animals, just because we are sapient doesn't mean we can discard our ancestry. A woman (or a man) owns her body, energy and time. Why should she/he not be allowed to spend that time and energy and use their body to make people happy and get paid for it? Other people choose to work in offices, others dance. Prostitution is only considered wrong because we are told it is. This stemming from religious teachings which are pretty silly to begin with (I mean really, regulations on what to do if your belongings get mildew on them? xD). I never said that you said prostitutes are evil. I likened evil to immoral, which is very often the case. Morals can only go so far, and more often than not they go way too far. I agree that we need to draw a line someone (like murder and rape for example) but prostitution is certainly not beyond the pale.
1. I already have many Christian friends at school. It doesn't bother me as long as they keep their beliefs to themselves, but any evangelising or being told that I am going to hell certainly wouldn't go down well. 2. Probably laugh as I walk past (at the very least inwardly). Possibly intervene if they were putting the person under pressure. 3. Oh I would have a field day =] I wouldn't stop until they were in tears. People like that don't fall into the "right of free speech" category for me and I would certainly make my views known.
Bible code my ass. That thing is as accurate as the astrologists in the daily paper. They make vague comments well open to interpretation and let people read what they want to read. I mean really. Also, god lol I don't even want to get started on this topic. All I will say is he makes no sense. From all the evidence he/she sounds at the very least deranged, if not verging on psychopathic. Who knows, maybe satan is just gods other personality? More likely neither exists and it is just the good cop bad cop routine taken way too far.
What makes you think that we as humans are any better than other organisms? Sex holds no special purpose over the need to survive for almost all other organisms (apart from some primates which do actually get joy from it). Are you saying that female animals with multiple male partners are all whores? Humans don't deserve any special mention, and no high and mighty "moral" sense has ever stopped us from committing the various evil acts we are most known for, prostitution certainly not being one of them.
Are you the hairy one? :3
My work here is done
It was a very cute thing to do :3 *huggles* I personally think a card like that is more personal and nice than a crappy straight off the shelf card that has "To someone, From Someone else" written in it >_>
Also, if you want the iPhone on pay as you go it costs over £300 to buy the phone.
Fail on the plurality part. Penguins = Plural noun it = Singular pronoun *eye-roll*
Wah? Mine cost £170 (which I have finally paid off to my mother X_X) and is awesome. I don't have to pay anything else (except for games and certain applications) and it is apparantly possible to turn it into a phone.
Lol I came through this thread thinking "What utter noob necro'ed a year old thread >_>" Then I found out it was just Rosey =D
That is also an appropriate option.
You can turn an iPod Touch into a phone with FREE software. I officially win.
Who doesn't have to pay £30 odd a month? HMMMMM!?
I'm typing this on my iPod touch =D I should really be doing ICT coursework but meh.
It has also been mentioned every time the story is mentioned on the BBC. What we are also reminded of is when that statue of Saddam Hussein was torn down, people beat it with the soles of their shoes showing the gravity of the insult.
You do realise there was a terrorist bomber who at least attempted to blow up an airplane with a shoe bomb?
