Closing at request of the thread creator.
Sure thing and if you want to talk in PM or something about it, please feel free to do so.
I'd also have to say I'd lean more to the tiger being what she chose as the debate here is between her love of the man and yet her terrible hatred of the woman and her already existing strong jealousy. She also acknowledges that if he dies, she will be reunited with him in the afterlife so it could confirm to her that her jealousy and hatred are more justified and that if he loved her he would wish to die to be with her and if not, he would be dead. Hate and jealousy often pervert love and with the calmness of her nature at the time I'd wager she would have more likely chosen the tiger.
Welcome to the team and it seems you are already doing a great job and have quite a bit of past experience. Nice to have you around here. ^_^
I just cannot like or respect some deity that expects me to worship it or I end up in a land of eternal suffering and damnation. Especially with the lack of proof that the being exists. For some of us, in life, we choose to not live in fear of the unknown or judge a book by its cover. By your definition of your God, Dredica, people who are given a chance to accept God and Jesus and do go to Heaven. Those who do not, go to Hell. I don't accept that sort of being. Why? Because that being has given me no reason to. I spent a life living amongst two sides of Christianity. Catholic and Protestant. Perhaps I was too intuitive for my own good and researched and wanted to know things such as: - Why even though I was a 'good Christian' follower, that it was okay for my mom who was also very Christian Protestant to beat the hell out of me for nothing I could discern and tell me repeatedly how worthless I was. - Why I had to make it on my own, ostracized from my family because my mother was nuts. - Why was it acceptable that my sister was born cerebral palsic and she has suffered a lot or why was my nephew born with heart problems that threaten to kill him whenever. - Why we were often hungry and not doing well and why people could lay off my dad who had a family to support just like that and he'd have a ton of stress. - Why others outside of my family suffered. Why a friend at school died of cancer and he was 10 years old. Why another friend died of AIDS from a blood transfusion at 15. Why a neighbor down the street came out to watch a drunk driver ram into her caravan and murder her children and he only had 10 years for it. - Why catastrophes happened etc and people would yell out that God was punishing us for being heathens and not believing. That's sure a lot of heathens in one area like where Katrina struck. What about all the Christians? - Why God would back such atrocities in the Bible as destroying places just because people weren't Jews and of course why atrocities such as the Crusades, the Inquisitions, the Witch Trials etc all happened. - Why Jesus's story pretty well mirrors Horus's and why the Bible of the Old Testament takes parts of Mesopotamian, Egyptian and Babylonian beliefs and spots and the tales are turned around but quite similar. - Why is 'witchcraft' bad and yet the miracles of God are not. I could go on and on as to why God and Jesus make no sense to me and why I find the entire monotheistic faith to be nothing more than a collection of myths, just as I enjoy reading Egyptian, Norse, Celtic etc mythos. If God really is so unloving as to say that we have our 'choice' whether to believe or not but if you do not, you go to Hell, and he doesn't provide enough information about himself to make his existence actually concrete, I do not -like- the God and would rather burn if there is even such a thing as Hell. The Jews in their writings didn't even believe in Hell, but more a place like Limbo/Purgatory. I cannot answer for sure that there is no superior force out there but I believe I can say with clear enough confidence that humans have got it all wrong if there is one or if there are many of these 'Gods' out there. I prefer to wait for proof and books, scrolls etc just are not enough proof as I can write a darn good believable yarn too and sell it as the next religion. It means nothing. As to the actual beginning post on the thread, I feel the religion was created back when for a few reasons. For control, for answers to make a group who wanted control to seem intelligent and far knowing, for personal answers and hope where explanations for events was quite wanting, and to draw people in to form a society separate from the Egyptians and Mesopotamian/Babylonian cultures that were predominant because their religions were already well established but left some people as slaves. Later the religion had to alter for some again as viewpoints and societies separated and changed. Still, Christianity, Judaism and Islam change because of the views of societies and we now have several branches from each that exist and spurn one another's views. Religion can draw people in and has been used to maintain an ethics status, laws and guideline that people are expected to live by. Who better to punish wrongdoers that disrupt a society but a deity or a few? The monotheistic religions though were different from Roman, Greek and Egyptian etc Mythos where the Gods were considered to also have human flaws and lively passionate stories. This God is perfect in every way as is his son, if you consider that a selfish, dominating deity that has omniscient and omnipotent powers but lets people suffer whether they believe or not and even tests people's faiths on it perfect. The prophets are not but they change to become men of the finest quality, which could be debated, of the times. Of course there will be some people who will say that we humans make our beds, but again, what child asks to be abused or what person asks to have mental illness that impairs judgment? To be born with disabilities? To have a drunk driver kill 3 kids while a mom watches helplessly from her door? etc. If I were a deity, I would certainly try to stop such travesties. The monotheistic deity is cruel to me and yet it is felt that he should merit worship? So, I guess I am not Job and could never take my kid out and even imagine I would give him/her up for sacrifice to prove my loyalty. There are some things out there that are not answered yet for me but I am confident someday those things may be answered and if not in my lifetime, I am content to live a life without fear hovering over me and expecting me to do things. I also find that people can be decent to one another without Christianity or the fear of being sent to Hell and I find it to be a brainwashing factor to have to believe in such fear tactics. Is it more authentic to help someone because that person is in trouble and to do so with no expectations of thank yous OR Is it more authentic to help someone because you are a Christian that is taught that if you do not help others you will be sent to Hell? There are just some things that certain groups of Christianity fight over such as this. Some Christians will also not follow the ideal that some others have which states that if you do not believe in God and Jesus, you will go to Hell. They feel that if you lead a good life and do positive things of your own will, that you are not barred from Heaven. I tend to enjoy talking to these Christians more and can accept their faith as much as they can accept my faithlessness. After all, believing or not believing is a thing that is personal to each person. We relate in other ways and just because someone does not wish to follow a path of beliefs does not mean the person has no ethics or heart. I hold nothing against people who choose to believe in God and Jesus even if I do not, a majority of the time. However, I do have something against people who decide to tell me where I am going after this life is over because my viewpoint is different. This is why Atheists and others of different religions or different views even in Christianity will say things and discuss matters. As long as some feel they can judge others and it -has- to affect their lives, there will be some of us who will not just sit idly by and listen to people who stupidly tell others 'you are going to be condemned to torment because you don't feel as we do'.
Sup? Hope all is going alright for you and yeah, I've been pretty busy with odd hours lately. I'm around but tend to be here when few others...
Daxma, we all need some time away and to do some rl things. I hope that you will do as you say and check in now and then. This is a rather slow time for debates as you said since well, I think we theoried ourselves out. When the new games come out, I am sure we'll be a more livelier group and have more things to toss around for ideas. Take care of yourself and I wish you luck with life and also with asking that girl out! Be well, man.
I'm going to go ahead and move this to the Debate area since this is a heavy question that fits more there. Any questions, PM me.
Please do not bother with answering his posts. Let's get back on topic. I left posts that responded but TheMuffinMan's comments were inappropriate and lame so they were removed. I'm also going to move this to the Debate area as it belongs more there.
I'm not Christian but have read the Bible 5 times and various areas more often so I know it pretty decently. What I said is basically the scenario as it is presented in the Bible. An end comes to everything and perhaps it would be better if some would focus more on living today instead of living for death. Just an opinion here but I find the whole Judgment Day lessons to be rather lame.
Repliku knew in the end he was duped big time. He also did not really hate Sora. He wanted to kill Riku to be 'real' but he also did not want to be Riku necessarily at the end. I don't think he'd have tried to assume Riku's identity but instead would have tried to make it on his own and hope he could find real friends and things to do. Of course, I also think the Organization would have gone after him to kill him if he was found out about. He may have also even sought revenge on them but there's a chance he just would have tried to avoid them and built up power to avoid the threat of them. In the end, Riku and Repliku differed in how they thought things through. Repliku was not so stable since he accepted Darkness with no real fight because of the way it was presented to him. It is possible to think that if Riku were destroyed, if Xehanort's Heartless had the way to, he would have tried to take over Repliku and the fight sadly would have been simpler because Repliku was a rather tragic figure that was quite unhappy with his circumstances. So, in the end, after defeating Riku, that might have been offered to him and since he knew he would not be complete and feel 'real' after, he may give in and Xehanort's Heartless would be free to reign and cause destruction, so there's another event that could have happened. I don't see really that he'd mimic Riku but try to be himself if he had the choice but yeah, whatever happened, I would think he'd have a very hard time finding a good life after what had occurred. I wish he had toned down and figured it out sooner and had left the castle instead of Axel finding him and setting him up. Had he done that, he may have been able to have friends and have a better life.
This goes in the Spam Zone. Moving it there.
Are you sure you deleted the recycle bin or just the icon? If it's just the icon you can fix that easier. If you deleted the recycle bin you might want to use your windows cd and have it reinstall it.
