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  1. T3F
    As many people have said, i dont have a problem with it unless its used excessively. Swear words, like any other words, are used to convey emotion. Without swearing, the song loses its intended emotional intensity.

    Good example is Eminem. Listen to any of his songs. Cleaning Out My Closet is one of the most emotionally driven songs ive ever heard from him, and the swear words emphasise the emotion he is trying to express. There are censored versions that just cut out every swear, and those versions are silent literally every few beats. It sounds stupid. Eminem is one of those artists who wants to be able to show so much fury, so much sadness, so much emotion in a 4 or 5 minute song. Of course he's gonna use a swear word every now and then.

    Another example is Maroon 5's Payphone. Now, i hate this song (for my own reasons), but without the swears it would lose the intensity it had. 'All those fairytales are full of sh*t, One more f*cking love song Ill be sick.' its actually necessary. Compared to the censored version, this is a great expression of emotion. Now as someone who doesnt like this song, the swear words make the emotion more...real.

    I just made a good point. Heaps of people swear all the time. When theyre angry, sad, happy etc etc. Swearing is a natural expression of emotion and, in my opinion, is a necessary thing to put into a song that requires such emotional intensity.

    So yeah, i think swearing is good, but should not be used excessively in songs.
    Post by: T3F, Jul 1, 2012 in forum: Discussion
  2. T3F
    Tried to re-record but GarageBand was being so fkergviluaehgliuatgpuq3yp5g8uy3iotuyg83qp8rw (that is TOTALLY a word)...sorry, reverb it is...
    Post by: T3F, Jun 30, 2012 in forum: KHV Chorus
  3. T3F
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    Homophobia

    Do you think Homophobia is wrong?

    Sure, people are fighting for Gay Rights and such because those people believe that it is the 'right thing' to do, according to them. However, I think the advocates for gay rights don't understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion. You can't turn around to a homophobe and say, "YOU HAVE TO LIKE GAY PEOPLE, ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO!" Much like Homophobes can't turn around to Gay people and say "BE STRAIGHT SO I DON'T HAVE TO HATE YOU!" Unfortunately, more people would agree that homophobia is just plain ignorant and stupid. Like I said, those people are entitled to their opinion.

    Basically what I'm getting that is that I don't like the idea of people changing other people's ideas and ways of thinking. If you are racist, then you are racist. If you are homophobic, then you are homophobic. Just because it is publicly considered unacceptable doesn't mean that they absolutely cannot have that opinion. Its like telling someone who hates broccoli to eat it. There is so much pressure on homophobes to accept gay people...what if they just don't want to? Well the answer to that is that they become the bad guys in society.

    Much as I didn't want to bring religion into this...I might as well use it as an example: The Catholic Church is strictly opposed to gay marriage. Why? Because they believe it is supposed to be a sacred sacrament between a man and a woman. Are they wrong?
    Some would say yes and that its discrimination against gays. Others would say no its not and that is religious tradition, therefore the church's opinion can be appropriately justified.

    I guess what I'm getting at is that just because its considered an unacceptable opinion of a distinct group of people doesn't mean that the people with that opinion should be judged and punished by the general public. Homophobia is justifiable. If somebody doesn't like gays, they shouldn't be pressured by gay rights groups to like gays.

    What I don't like is the expression of homophobia. Hate Crimes against gays is discriminating and patronizing. To an extent, they can be justified, but expressing an opinion of hate, or a judgement against homosexuals is without a doubt wrong. It does, however, present a stereotype that all homophobes are going to go out and kill gay people because 'that's the right thing to do' according to them. Expressing opinions of hate: verbal abuse, physical abuse, bashings and murders are definitely wrong. It does not mean that harnessing these opinions is wrong. I also don't mean to stereotype all the gay rights groups for pressuring homophobes to accept gays. I just don't like the gay rights groups that do.

    So, I think homophobia as a whole is a natural opinion. It is just the way it is. I'm interested to hear your opinions of homophobia. Do you think its wrong?
    Thread by: T3F, Jun 30, 2012, 11 replies, in forum: Debate Corner
  4. T3F
    Wow. You guys did really well!
    Post by: T3F, Jun 28, 2012 in forum: KHV Chorus
  5. T3F
    Sweet! I'll start recording then!

    EDIT: Annnnnnd Sent!
    Btw, this is my render :)

    Really excited to see how this turns out!!
    Post by: T3F, Jun 28, 2012 in forum: KHV Chorus