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okay....but still.

the illusions people create in their minds can only be of that person itself.

so we can say that each person is under a veil of their own illusions.

wich means each, has their own, believes, morals, principles.

now, these things can only take effect on ourselves, since the world doesnt have a collective counciousness.

let me make this easier to understand:

the world doesnt use its mind to create illusions around its perception.

now that we conclude that , we can say that the natural laws of reality and the world(not the laws established by men for security and order) are absolute, and they cannot be changed.

meaning that we cannot change the laws , but we can break from the veil of illusions and perceptions , such as personal crisis , ect.

but still keeping in mind that the world it a constant and its natural laws absolute.

we can't say gravity is only a perception of the mind.

but we can say that a border , was made by men , and its only a perception that helps us divide the world.

those are some examples, but there are plenty others.

he was not talking about the laws created by men.

he is speaking of the laws that make up this world

like teorems(sp?)

teorems, have been proven to be absolute, just like the "laws" of physics.

and now youre going into a different ground.

you say that Illusion is essentual for a happy life, but illusions are only there because we allow them enough space to be there.

there are things wich are only illusions placed by our thoughts and morals....those can be called illusions, but the laws that make up this world...those seem to be absolute.

but lets go the other way.

we can say that we can somehow surpass these illusions, but these illusions themselves have set men to "raise the bar", just like numbers and math....since the beggining things had numerical value.

we just had to find it....if 1=1 .....thats something that can't really be changed.

but who knows , there might be something more as crono said, and maybe this way of life....might be half right....or completely right.

i never did think/say , it was a religion.

you, really would go insane, the daily life we lead.

the things that keep our feelings attached, is those illusions.

because, we could say that love is only an illusion.

but we don't, because we feel it.

but , just one question.

how do you know it is next to impossible?

we can't be certain if its impossible or not....because its hard to believe that the world, its laws, its nature....can be bent.

the scientists have proved that there are things that we cannot change, or if we follow your phylosophy , it might be nearly impossible.

but, the thing is...the "illusions" that have been made , must play an important role in our lives.

i want to hear others opinions on this.

actually......are you saying that humans can fly?

and that if i throw away my principles, laws, restraints, and univesal thruths, i will be able to do away with these "illusions"?

that to me seems fishy.


we cannot fly by normal means....of course the human body is fairly amazing and we might be able to do things we would never imagine possible.

but we cant go as far and say that everything is false...and that we can bend things in wichever way we desire.

there are studious people who have made countless discoveries...about what we cannot hold and bend in our grasp ....and how the world we live in works....there is a limit....not a rule, not an obligation, but a limit...

we can't say that the fact that the world is round is fake either, because its been proven, its round.

we can't discard our beliefs, morals, and thruths, because those illusions, are the things created to shape our daily lives.

if you believe that we can somehow transcend the common thought , and be able to do the impossible....then it would be a good exercise to practice....if you really believe this.

then go....release the illusions that have been tying you, and pass through a wall....im not saying its possible, or not, but there is only one way to prove it.

you can't defend any philosohy , and even more when there is the chance it might be wrong, if you don't try it for yourself.


this is a nice little disscusion.

you know....i think about something...this thread just seems like.....


let me tell you what this illusions are.

"universal thruths"

a universal thruth is what most of the people believe.

and they are what define our being....because if politeness, maners and morals are an illusion...this is certainly not completly true....because no matter wich way you go by it...a wall cannot be passed through(unless you use a door) its the law that this world has set for us.

the laws that define our reality and our limitations.

even when you say we can look in different perspectives.

without anything....we cant normally pass through a wall....and we cant fly, unless we use some sort of device....there is nothing that can defies the natural laws of this world....we cant just imagine that we can pass through walls and automatically pass through it , because we say it was an "illusion".

and no...i do not believe in illusions....and the things we can do and cannot are not the same as the ones we should and shouldnt.

we shouldn't steal....because its wrong to take things that are not yours....from that a law was made....because it seemed like the right thing to do.

but

we CANT fly without any sort of device....because we are not "designed" to be able to fly, and gravity would knock us back to the ground.

gravity is not an illusion....its something natural....you cant free yourself from it under normal circumstances.....and you can't just think its an illusion and it'll go away.


so you see most of the things we have are thruths and things we should do and shouldnt that people have come to accept....so in a way you can call them "illusions"

but there are some things that no matter what we do, we can't change or switch perspectives of.

oh...youre 15?


i mean....are you a sophomore now?

well....yeah...shouldnt you have made this thread when the day came?.

hey there

welcome to KHV.

and have fun....follow the rules

and enjoy, im sure you will make friends here.

well.....there's one thing.

people should not discriminate against others...for any reason.

even....when your gay,bi,les.....people have no right to tell you who to love.

if a person is catholic, protestant , ect.

shouldn't you be a "good" person?

instead of going around critizicing things, like ,if they wear piercings, or their hair, or their clothing.

there are other ways.....and critize shouldnt be one.

actually.......the first definitions sound more on par with the religions

jk.....or am i...up to you.


but to tell the thruth,...the catholic religion....in the past did whatever they wanted through time, because of their twisted traditions....and people do as they say.

sunday the day of worship?

when did that come into place?.....well i could explain...but.

back on subject.


religious groups are an important part of our society , when the french revolution started....people went into chaos....they wanted to destroy religion, and it went wrong, people need to have firm believes wether they are right or not....because then chaos is abound.

hair grows back eventually.

heck, youre lucky its only the hair, because some things cant be changed....

but does it look bad?

im not really sure what to say.

its something new to me, but i think i see something.

this is surely..one "different" writting style.

its...nice, but not that clear, what is the message?

well, im not sure, because i dont see much of a connection..between the parts, but somehow i think its good.

woah...i havent missed much....well...im not kira.

and i wont be around that much...but ill try to solve this...when i get time that is.

oh well *eats peach*

well...im not really sure , but a song that describes me...

well..i would say..."muneca de trapo" by oreja de van goh.


it pretty much describes me, and the song , itself its awesome.

yeah, i saw your others and forgot to comment on them.

you seem...really to have fun....

i mean, crazy fun XD.

but, really fun in a creepy way.

meh....what do older brother/sisters....know?....yeah they like to bother their younger brothers and sisters.


well....the message to me seems to direct....but since it is an event where the message is supposed to be like that.

i think it reads nice.

since repliku will say this way longer.....

the genes we have might have something to do...maybe...but there are also the outside influences.

those are the two things that mesaure our personality....but i think that...even when you have "evil " in your genes, if youve been raised as a good person....you might feel compelled to do bad things....but the good teaching would be predominant.

well, you better not leave entirely.

i wanna see you around

and hope it gets better for you.

well, i like it.

mainly because of the nice things you placed there.

but the stock....looks...a bit unclear to me, i think it might be because of the quality, but then again, it could be her skin, since that looks like a live concert.

other than that...the sig looks awesome.

why wasnt such a great idea thought of before?

this will help greatly.

in my expirience i can say so...cause when the search button isnt helping....its not easy finding a thread upon piles of suggestions.